tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post3266197960173757346..comments2024-03-28T15:46:57.557+01:00Comments on Football rankings: FIFA Ranking: October 2011 probable resultsEdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-45196571260856344532011-09-30T08:23:34.566+02:002011-09-30T08:23:34.566+02:00@MV I'd like to use Voros or SPI since they ha...@MV I'd like to use Voros or SPI since they have offense/defense and I could generate scores. That would come in handy for the UEFA NT coefficient.<br /><br />@Ashot Please try to be polite. I don't have a boss - I'm the only person involved in this blog. The banners you see on my blog are displayed <b>for free</b>. I did receive plenty of offers from betting sites to display their Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03420252819752301980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-85387443762188657192011-09-29T23:37:08.922+02:002011-09-29T23:37:08.922+02:00@Tiksa ... i've already written your enormous ...@Tiksa ... i've already written your enormous post just in 2 sentences some days ago, your actions aren't even trolling.Ashothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10183701897057940985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-70216614299320457912011-09-28T12:42:20.422+02:002011-09-28T12:42:20.422+02:00Everyone of us can make predictions how matches wi...Everyone of us can make predictions how matches will end. <br />The value of Edgar's predictions come from using some solid method to which everyone can refer and check the calculations. <br /><br />However, all rankings - good or bad - are past looking analysis. And as they say with all stock market recommendations "past performance does not guarantee future outcome". Thus I would Timo M. Partanenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04069219297687065086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-75941597559436487132011-09-26T14:10:01.374+02:002011-09-26T14:10:01.374+02:00For some reason Edgar missed Poland vs Belarus fri...For some reason Edgar missed Poland vs Belarus friendly on 11-Oct. I thought it wasn't on fifa.com (at was only confirmed last week or so) but it's there already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-20445031370245721442011-09-23T20:27:22.512+02:002011-09-23T20:27:22.512+02:00@ Tobcoach
Dream: Poland, England, Greece, Denmar...@ Tobcoach<br /><br />Dream: Poland, England, Greece, Denmark<br /><br />Nightmare: Spain, England, France, SwedenLorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-85420013206407870962011-09-23T19:15:16.512+02:002011-09-23T19:15:16.512+02:00I did a little math of my own. When I put Edgars p...I did a little math of my own. When I put Edgars predicted results into the qualifying tables, I come up with this results:<br /><br />Qualified: Germany, Russia, Italy, France, Netherlands, Croatia, England, Portugal, Spain<br /><br />Nrs. 2: Turkey, Rep. of Ireland, Serbia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Sweden, Greece, Switzerland, Denmark, Czech Rep.<br /><br />Best number 2 will be Denmark, so they Tobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-5801425314273345502011-09-23T17:26:50.362+02:002011-09-23T17:26:50.362+02:00You might be right about the Slovaks' need to ...You might be right about the Slovaks' need to win being the key. Azerbaijan beat Turkey and tied Belgium at home. Two better teams. They can tie Austria. US have been bad lately. But they're probably still favourites, but not enough to dispute a draw. I thought you'd think Estonia would win since they beat NI 4-1. I was thinking draw because NI are strong at home! But all the 1 teams Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-71239199756962264762011-09-23T17:16:50.438+02:002011-09-23T17:16:50.438+02:00@Lorric though Armenia had 2 crushing victories ag...@Lorric though Armenia had 2 crushing victories against Slovakia, Slovaks are still much stronger and would definetely win against Macedonia as they need it as oxygen, Azerbaijan must clearly lose to Austrians, US win Ecuador and N. Ireland must defeat Estonia (despite not being able to defeat Faroes) and Chile - Peru 1, Switzerland - Montenegro 1, Korea Republic - Poland 1 are reverse results ofAshothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10183701897057940985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-37323970272115547252011-09-23T17:05:29.979+02:002011-09-23T17:05:29.979+02:00@ Ashot
Well, I already said I thought Armenia wo...@ Ashot<br /><br />Well, I already said I thought Armenia would win. But what's wrong with the rest of the predictions?Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-70304661883672591742011-09-23T17:02:12.444+02:002011-09-23T17:02:12.444+02:00Well the alternative ranking systems are even more...Well the alternative ranking systems are even more annoying, Sweden at 8th position, erhm... not at this planetAshothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10183701897057940985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-79021957289619040602011-09-23T16:55:14.088+02:002011-09-23T16:55:14.088+02:00Sweden and Russia would probably be the seeds.
--...Sweden and Russia would probably be the seeds. <br />---<br />Thanks. Makes some sense.<br /><br />I agree it would be weird to not count the 2011 results at all (which is the UEFA alternative) but then we could have done the draw in December and used the same ranking as will be used for the Euro play-off seeding. Which would also have accounted for Norway's horror show in Copenhagen and put Håkonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-16555676746308532422011-09-23T16:51:46.229+02:002011-09-23T16:51:46.229+02:00And if the UEFA rankings were used: no Norway, but...And if the UEFA rankings were used: no Norway, but no France either - Sweden and Russia would probably be the seeds.MVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-68909641363882106902011-09-23T16:47:38.758+02:002011-09-23T16:47:38.758+02:00Yes, France was even more impressive in the friend...Yes, France was even more impressive in the friendlies, but I've mentioned their impressive qualifying. So France goes in (I had hoped for that to happen, so Croatia would avoid them), but instead of Greece, not Norway - Norway wasn't the lowest of the seeded teams. ;)MVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-60820745339544768592011-09-23T16:38:03.626+02:002011-09-23T16:38:03.626+02:00@MV
The Czechia result was after the seeding. We ...@MV<br /><br />The Czechia result was after the seeding. We (I am Norwegian) also lost to Ukraine (pot 3) and Poland (pot 4) in that time. If friendlies count, France should clearly have been seeded ahead of Norway (wins over England, Brazil, Ukraine, Poland).<br /><br />I would have used the UEFA ranking. I'm not entirely sure what it would have given as top seeds, but suspect Russia and Håkonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-75481396297023280052011-09-23T16:37:50.120+02:002011-09-23T16:37:50.120+02:00@Ashot
http://duffireland.beepworld.de/aggr_rankin...@Ashot<br />http://duffireland.beepworld.de/aggr_ranking_1_9_11.htmMVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-80155475321285919662011-09-23T16:34:18.201+02:002011-09-23T16:34:18.201+02:00@ MV
Norway doesn't bother me. I always thoug...@ MV<br /><br />Norway doesn't bother me. I always thought they got screwed by the stupid system for WCQ, getting booted as the worst runner up.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-66068604336949759952011-09-23T16:31:35.162+02:002011-09-23T16:31:35.162+02:00I know the Mexico-Brazil game is based on ELO, but...I know the Mexico-Brazil game is based on ELO, but even ignoring that, Mexico-Brazil games are not as one-sided as you might think. Check since 2000.Joelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-46873092306641881742011-09-23T16:30:12.800+02:002011-09-23T16:30:12.800+02:00@Håkon
Norway was seeded because they had pretty ...@Håkon<br /><br />Norway was seeded because they had pretty impressive results - a string of victories (Portugal, France, Czechia, Slovakia, Ireland) and topped their qualifying group - who would you give their place to? In case of Norway, FIFA can only be blamed that their rankings are too "current".MVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-84782220750395967502011-09-23T16:23:19.911+02:002011-09-23T16:23:19.911+02:00Chance de Gol Worldwide Nations Ranking: http://ch...Chance de Gol Worldwide Nations Ranking: http://chancedegol.uol.com.br/rksel.htm<br />Ziaian World Football Ranking: http://www.rankfootball.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-22579446708386762552011-09-23T16:20:31.450+02:002011-09-23T16:20:31.450+02:00@ Ashot
That second set, what's wrong with th...@ Ashot<br /><br />That second set, what's wrong with them? I'd predict those results for all 4 matches. Unless Montenegro somehow beat England, then they'd have something to play for and the Swiss wouldn't.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-33934419031328906062011-09-23T16:15:20.926+02:002011-09-23T16:15:20.926+02:00@ Ashot
Most of those look good for draws to me. ...@ Ashot<br /><br />Most of those look good for draws to me. Different results, I'd say if Mexico are in the Azteca they'll win, The improved Thailand will be favourites against the atrocious Saudi Arabia and Armenia should beat Macedonia.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-27132532636893557952011-09-23T15:59:44.630+02:002011-09-23T15:59:44.630+02:00Ashot: Are you Italian since you seem to rate NZ a...Ashot: Are you Italian since you seem to rate NZ and Slovakia?<br /><br />Edgar is using the best free system (that is, who has announced their formula) there is. FIFA is 10 times more annoying than ELO; consider the case of Wales, who are either 117th or 90th depending on which month you rank them in. Complete bollocks. Or Norway who got first seeds in World Cup qualifying despite failing to Håkonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-38597667507413691452011-09-23T15:51:41.647+02:002011-09-23T15:51:41.647+02:00And Edgar it clearly seems that you want to use SP...And Edgar it clearly seems that you want to use SPI but are afraid, sorry afraid of what? your boss? loss of your banners? prediction must be realistical, not based on any silly ranking and handled in a way you want, thats your site! i'll even say that you'd better use some famous betting site or even your own statistical predictions, you're doing a prediction, it is absurd that you&#Ashothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10183701897057940985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-92186688413395489162011-09-23T15:36:43.340+02:002011-09-23T15:36:43.340+02:00And even stranger...
Chile - Peru 1
Switzerland -...And even stranger...<br /><br />Chile - Peru 1<br />Switzerland - Montenegro 1<br />Korea Republic - Poland 1<br />Ecuador - Venezuela 1<br /><br />but Macedonia-Slovakia and Mexico-Brazil draws just killed me, i think that voros is just writing random numbers and sorting teams by his favor, SPI and FIFA are the best of all 4, while ELO is completely annoying:<br /><br />14 france<br />19 south Ashothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10183701897057940985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-7168190045179175792011-09-23T15:16:16.889+02:002011-09-23T15:16:16.889+02:00SPI?! Why SPI? You don't know how it's bei...SPI?! Why SPI? You don't know how it's being calculated, so that can't be the reason...and it can't be that you like their results?? They seem...weird. Certainly not better than either FIFA or Elo?MVnoreply@blogger.com