Comments on Football rankings: 2010 World Cup seeding: Based on feeling

OK, I think it's going to be a really interest...

2010-02-08T20:22:38.070+02:00

OK, I think it's going to be a really interesting simulation and people will like it a lot!

I think that after march friendlies it's a good date to begin with this WC 2010 simulation, don't you think so?

Congratulations for this blog, once again!

Juan

I can do the 2010 WC simulation (plus friendlies)....

2010-02-08T09:53:54.026+02:00

I can do the 2010 WC simulation (plus friendlies). However, for the 2012 EURO I need the qualifying fixtures.

Hi Edgar! You could make a simulation of the resul...

2010-02-07T14:24:16.494+02:00

Hi Edgar! You could make a simulation of the results of the friendly matches fixed up to the WC 2010 and the results of the WC 2010, and make a post with it. Then it would be great to make other simluation of the results of the EURO 2012 qualifyng and even the EURO 2012. Perhaps it`s too much work, but I think that it would be very interesting!

Juan

Yes Stevan - it based on feeling :) Some teams may...

2009-12-09T08:13:39.806+02:00

Yes Stevan - it based on feeling :)
Some teams may not have a good GD but they get the result they need more often then not.

Hi Edgar And why? Or is it just also a feeling? V...

2009-12-07T18:08:31.127+02:00

Hi Edgar

And why?
Or is it just also a feeling?
Voros McCracken himself seems to prefer the GDRank: http://vorosmccracken.com/?p=142
[The National Team Rating System Explanation
October 5th, 2009 • 20 Comments]
Citation:
"The System Explained
But why goals? Why not wins and losses? That’s a fair question and the answer is that I think it gives a

@Sepp and Michele I had a good laugh reading your...

2009-12-07T16:06:01.496+02:00

@Sepp and Michele

I had a good laugh reading your comments :)

@Stevan

I like the WinRank - but only a bit more.

So ranking has become even more important. I have...

2009-12-07T16:02:35.332+02:00

So ranking has become even more important.

I have a question: Which ranking do you prefer personally:

The ranking by GDRank or ranking by WINRank on
http://vorosmccracken.com/nationalteamrankings111709.html
?

Non, Michel, this is an ANTI-propaganda site

2009-12-07T14:05:46.089+02:00

Non, Michel, this is an ANTI-propaganda site

Ahh, Sepp, So that's where you get your FIFA R...

2009-12-07T14:04:30.414+02:00

Ahh, Sepp, So that's where you get your FIFA Rankings from before my committee calculates them. Keep up the propaganda, Edgar !

Hmmmm

2009-12-04T14:13:11.086+02:00

Hmmmm

Don't worry Raoul. My site won't turn into...

2009-12-04T13:43:44.835+02:00

Don't worry Raoul. My site won't turn into an anti-FIFA propaganda tool :) I'll keep on computing the rankings as usual.
Thank you for your nice words, but I believe you're overestimating the influence of my website. I don't think I'm getting visits from people working for FIFA.

> To suddenly drop it out of the seeding > ...

2009-12-04T13:30:38.475+02:00

> To suddenly drop it out of the seeding
> formula seems a bit strange.
> If FIFA will use the October 2013
> ranking to seed the teams for the 2014
> World Cup final draw... hats off to
> them.

Exactly, to drop it was a surprise, but exactly the point I'm trying to make. If we focus on this fact, and perhaps your site has had some

Raoul, your surprise has been registered. :) There...

2009-12-04T13:15:04.153+02:00

Raoul, your surprise has been registered. :)
There has been some consistency in the seeding method for the last 3 World Cups. Further more, the performance in the last two or three tournaments has been part of the formula for the last 5 World Cups. To suddenly drop it out of the seeding formula seems a bit strange.
If FIFA will use the October 2013 ranking to seed the teams for the 2014

> Raoul is joking, of course. :) Edgar, I was ...

2009-12-04T12:40:52.983+02:00

> Raoul is joking, of course. :)

Edgar, I was joking about the propoganda tool, but my comment about me being surprised that you post things like this is serious. It is of course up to you what you post, but I wanted to register my surprise. As I have described in various posts, I believe the decisions that have been made are good ones and move us forward (indeed not far enough),

Raoul is joking, of course. :) He had this articl...

2009-12-04T09:42:09.145+02:00

Raoul is joking, of course. :)

He had this article in mind:

My site is a propaganda tool for FIFA

Anonymous: no, that can't happen. Pot 4 only h...

2009-12-03T15:04:36.073+02:00

Anonymous: no, that can't happen. Pot 4 only has 8 teams, so they will all be drawn into different groups. This means that South Africa, Brazil and Argentina will only have one European team in their groups.

In 2006, there were 9 unseeded European teams, so one of them (Serbia & Montenegro) got put into a 'special pot' and were drawn against one of the non-European

Dear Edgar, I love your site. I know you have d...

2009-12-03T05:40:37.298+02:00

Dear Edgar,
I love your site. I know you have desentours but keep up the good work. Belive me when I say it is very much appreaseated.

Being of Irish descent I can't feel too sorry ...

2009-12-03T05:29:08.754+02:00

Being of Irish descent I can't feel too sorry that France didn't receive a group seed, even thought I did rooted for them to win in 1998. I feel justice was done here(if not for the Irish team}. Bring on the draw. Go USA!

Probably a dumb question but if Japan were to draw...

2009-12-03T03:40:46.844+02:00

Probably a dumb question but if Japan were to draw Brazil might they still draw two european teams from pot 4?

raoul -- you're joking, right?

2009-12-02T19:04:43.873+02:00

raoul -- you're joking, right?

Surprised you posted this. You're turning your...

2009-12-02T18:57:29.176+02:00

Surprised you posted this. You're turning your site into a propaganda tool against FIFA? ;-) I for one trust that this kind of thing will not happen again and that the lesson is being learned.

IMHO... no surprises here. FIFA will never commit...

2009-12-02T16:12:49.698+02:00

IMHO... no surprises here. FIFA will never commit beforehand to anything. It is all about business, marketing and making money for themselves and a whole bunch of other parties with vested interests. Therefore, they will always "massage" the seedings and pots to achieve that end.

Complete joke. FIFA must list all their seeding me...

2009-12-02T15:42:42.977+02:00

Complete joke. FIFA must list all their seeding methods before qualifying starts next time. That's the only fair decision.

Long-time reader, first-time commenter here. I ce...

2009-12-02T14:35:49.268+02:00

Long-time reader, first-time commenter here.

I certainly feel they should be more consistent and transparent about their seeding methods; ideally they will announce the system to be used before the qualifiers even begin. This method leaves them open to accusations of conspiracy and favouritism; imagine if the Premier League only announced in April how many teams would be relegated, or