tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post4528179933605810662..comments2024-03-28T17:34:31.597+01:00Comments on Football rankings: FIFA Ranking: June 2011 final previewEdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-47062203920799861052011-07-08T07:44:57.709+02:002011-07-08T07:44:57.709+02:00@dave
It's Edgar, not Edger. Thanks!@dave<br /><br />It's Edgar, not Edger. Thanks!Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03420252819752301980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-74401112034183135592011-07-07T18:59:15.044+02:002011-07-07T18:59:15.044+02:00As I did in the other thread, I retract my claim a...As I did in the other thread, I retract my claim about Guadeloupe, etc, being "full members." I was wrong. They are indeed associate members.<br /><br />Nonetheless, I stand by my main point: they should still be fully entitled to enter confederational championships.Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-41634727708395395212011-07-07T13:39:33.138+02:002011-07-07T13:39:33.138+02:00It's a shame Japan couldn't be there. I re...It's a shame Japan couldn't be there. I reckon they would have delivered the final blow, and eliminated Argentina in the group stage of their own tournament.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-79414718788465934452011-07-07T13:37:56.358+02:002011-07-07T13:37:56.358+02:00I'm retracting what I said about Agentina. I n...I'm retracting what I said about Agentina. I no longer believe they are the equal of England. When you're struggling against teams which failed to qualify to the World Cup in your own stadium in your own tournament and you have the finest player on the planet in your team and a supporting cast of individual players comparable to the talent England has at it's disposal, you are not theLorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-11610845233297763482011-07-06T21:45:07.685+02:002011-07-06T21:45:07.685+02:00@dave:
Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guiana, Sai...@dave:<br /><br />Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guiana, Saint-Martin, and Sint Maarten are <b>not associate members. They are full members of CONCACAF.</b>Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-19415989053139573462011-07-01T22:53:27.003+02:002011-07-01T22:53:27.003+02:00I disagree with Edger and others on Guadeloupe, Ma...I disagree with Edger and others on Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guyana, etc. they are associate members of CONCACAF. Canadians would rather be 71st or 72nd and 7th best CONCACAF team because certain leagues require players are from the top 75 ranked teams. Panama would be in the top 50 at 47th or 48th. The U.S. would be 21st or 22nd. The biggest victim this time of having a non FIFA member davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-48008389662782578872011-07-01T19:32:55.029+02:002011-07-01T19:32:55.029+02:00@CWY2190
Now You can look at Welsh average and co...@CWY2190<br /><br />Now You can look at Welsh average and compare with 138,75 points from any friendly win (for example with Solomon Islands).xxx_xhttp://fifaranking.i.phnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-40219939052489682302011-07-01T09:30:34.030+02:002011-07-01T09:30:34.030+02:00@CWY2190
From the 972 points Norway will have in ...@CWY2190<br /><br />From the 972 points Norway will have in June/July, 503 come from five matches only. Portugal (Sep 2010), Cyprus (Oct 2010), Iceland (Sep 2010), Scotland (Aug 2009) and Macedonia (Sep 2009). Portugal were 8th, Cyprus were 43rd, Iceland were 79th, Scotland were 24th, Macedonia were 56th. As you can see Norway got very lucky, playing and winning against these teams when they wereEdgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03420252819752301980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-36005135517094862011-07-01T09:17:56.277+02:002011-07-01T09:17:56.277+02:00@Lorric
See the March vs. July seeding.
Regarding...@Lorric<br /><br />See the <a href="http://www.football-rankings.info/2011/07/concacaf-seeding-march-vs-july.html" rel="nofollow">March vs. July seeding</a>.<br />Regarding OFC's changed format - can't say more than what you've said - it will indeed help them climb in the rankings.<br /><br />@dave<br /><br />With T&T instead of Guadeloupe: USA (835), Panama (597), Canada (458). Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03420252819752301980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-57561460897353248942011-06-30T16:40:18.247+02:002011-06-30T16:40:18.247+02:00@Tobcoach
I have also made mine calculation of th...@Tobcoach<br /><br />I have also made mine calculation of the Wales-the Faroe Islands situation.<br /><br />In my calculation Wales have 273,3584416 points and the Faroe Islands have 273,4821429 points.<br />The devil is in the detail. Wales won a friendly against Luxembourg in the 11th of August in 2010. It’s the same date that FIFA releases a new FIFA World Ranking list. In this list LuxembourgJákuphttp://www.football-rankings.info/2011/06/fifa-ranking-june-2011-final-preview.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-64026737850705167152011-06-30T14:45:20.646+02:002011-06-30T14:45:20.646+02:00So is there any obvious explanation why Wales = Po...So is there any obvious explanation why Wales = Pot 5 on the FIFA ranking but Faroes = Pot 5 in Edgar's listing?<br /><br />Is the decimal system not used as assumed?<br /><br />Has FIFA or Edgar made a mistake?<br /><br />Are FIFA hoping no-one will notice?<br /><br />Has Pot 5 been publicised in Faroes...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-62657331730637722812011-06-30T14:18:34.517+02:002011-06-30T14:18:34.517+02:00Playing a friendly against that bad of a team woul...Playing a friendly against that bad of a team would probably drop their average, not raise it.CWY2190https://www.blogger.com/profile/07489877587725781507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-3735637282885092012011-06-30T11:23:17.593+02:002011-06-30T11:23:17.593+02:00Wales should play game with Curacao or San Marino ...Wales should play game with Curacao or San Marino in July then they will be sure to be in 4 pot. If Faroe Islands win friendly game with San Marino in July, they will be in 5 pot. :)xxx_xhttp://fifaranking.i.phnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-55413888514495894992011-06-30T08:23:43.513+02:002011-06-30T08:23:43.513+02:00@Anonymous
No it's not possible. There are no ...@Anonymous<br />No it's not possible. There are no matches in July, and neither Wales nor Faroe Islands have been playing matches in July the last 4 years. This means there are no points to devaluate, so there will be no change for sure.Jákuphttp://www.football-rankings.info/2011/06/fifa-ranking-june-2011-final-preview.html?showComment=1309384843421#c1163735355276915826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-41545822043005244562011-06-30T05:06:21.209+02:002011-06-30T05:06:21.209+02:00Edger, you still have not answered my question. Ab...Edger, you still have not answered my question. About what would happen if TNT or Antigua and Barbuda played instead of Guadeloupe. I feel Guadeloupe or other associate members of CONCACAF or OFC or other confederations should not be allowed to compete in open official FIFA matches; it hurts FIFA members who win against them because of no FIFA ranking points. If a FIFA member loses to a davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-29177175134536542112011-06-30T00:27:44.057+02:002011-06-30T00:27:44.057+02:00Whats causing Norway to be ranked so high? 5W 5D ...Whats causing Norway to be ranked so high? 5W 5D 3L in recently qualifying (2010 WC and 2012 Euro) is enough to put them that high?CWY2190https://www.blogger.com/profile/07489877587725781507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-11637353552769158262011-06-30T00:00:43.421+02:002011-06-30T00:00:43.421+02:00Is it possible Wales have the decimal advantage in...Is it possible Wales have the decimal advantage in June ranking but it'll be Faroese in July...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-34518344358174260382011-06-29T21:28:41.475+02:002011-06-29T21:28:41.475+02:00@Tobcoach
Well if that is the case then it’s just...@Tobcoach <br />Well if that is the case then it’s just tough luck for the Faroe Islands. But in my opinion the only right thing for FIFA to do is to document in full transparency the calculation of Wales and the Faroe Islands points. But sadly I don’t believe that is going to happen.<br />Anyway I’m look forward to hear what Edgar have to say about this.Jákuphttp://www.football-rankings.info/2011/06/fifa-ranking-june-2011-final-preview.html?showComment=1309374412253#c2455441667828140085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-24554416678281400852011-06-29T21:06:52.253+02:002011-06-29T21:06:52.253+02:00I'm not sure, but I think that when two or mor...I'm not sure, but I think that when two or more teams have the same number of total rounded points, the decimals come into action.<br /><br />If my calculations are correct, Wales has 273,33 points and Faroe 273,28 points which gives Wales a slight upperhand. Nothing changes for the July ranking, so that would put Wales in pot 4 and the Faroe in pot 5.Tobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-77502302829285369762011-06-29T18:04:19.181+02:002011-06-29T18:04:19.181+02:00@ Jakup
Hmmm...
I wondered if the rising team ov...@ Jakup<br /><br />Hmmm...<br /><br />I wondered if the rising team overtook the falling one (Costa Rica's points score was down while Tunisia's was up, while with the Faroes, they rise, but Wales stay the same.) But I checked, and it is not so.<br /><br />There's a four way at 102nd in this month's ranking that disproves that. Again, there's alpha order or anything, it's Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-15803665384011518412011-06-29T17:51:58.740+02:002011-06-29T17:51:58.740+02:00@Lorric
I have just been looking at some old ranki...@Lorric<br />I have just been looking at some old ranking lists to see how FIFA places the teams when they have the same amount of points. If you look at the ranking list for February 2011, both Costa Rica and Tunisia had 48th next to them. In the ranking list for January 2011 Tunisia was number 44 while Costa Rica was number 69, so I guess FIFA usually counts in the decimal. The Faroe Jákuphttp://www.football-rankings.info/2011/06/fifa-ranking-june-2011-final-preview.html?showComment=1309358621831#c5770946904268180105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-1151618759205365452011-06-29T17:17:09.374+02:002011-06-29T17:17:09.374+02:00Just a quick shoutout in defence of England to any...Just a quick shoutout in defence of England to anyone who'll listen.<br /><br />The mass hysteria (not on here, but elsewhere) is amusing because most people don't understand why England are fourth, and it's merely an anomoly which will be put right next month. However, everyone trotting out all the names and saying they're better or even way better than England annoy me. And Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-57709469042681801052011-06-29T16:43:41.831+02:002011-06-29T16:43:41.831+02:00Re Faroes
Good spot. Both teams have 114th next t...Re Faroes<br /><br />Good spot. Both teams have 114th next to them. I would guess the reason Faroes are beneath Wales is simply because that's where they were before. If they're not counting the extra decimal places, then Faroes would come up but not pass Wales. So yes, now we need Edgar to tell us if they'll split in the July ranking, or stay together. FIFA might end up splitting Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-21930183354691001892011-06-29T15:06:36.602+02:002011-06-29T15:06:36.602+02:00As I have understood it, the seeding for the preli...As I have understood it, the seeding for the preliminary competition for the 2014 FIFA World Cup in Europe, will be based on the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking of July 2011. The next ranking list will be released on the 27th of July. Correct me if I am wrong.<br /><br />Is it then correct that all results in May and June in the following years: 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 will either drop out or Jákuphttp://www.football-rankings.info/2011/06/fifa-ranking-june-2011-final-preview.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-86481223937409557902011-06-29T14:04:55.807+02:002011-06-29T14:04:55.807+02:00Wales-Faroes situation is very strange.
Can the r...Wales-Faroes situation is very strange.<br /><br />Can the rounding change in the July ranking...<br /><br />... meaning they will swap places?<br /><br />Or has FIFA manipulated it to keep Wales Pot 5?<br /><br />Being Pot 5 was a great opportunity for Faroes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com