tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post5770141799066819758..comments2024-03-28T17:34:31.597+01:00Comments on Football rankings: EURO 2016: Expansion to 24 teams 'not ideal'Edhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-85190743372912630442014-03-08T10:37:01.132+01:002014-03-08T10:37:01.132+01:00Complete 6 groups of 4
Top 2 progress
Then the 4 b...Complete 6 groups of 4<br />Top 2 progress<br />Then the 4 best group toppers qualify for the Quarter Finals<br />The 8 remaining teams play-off for the last 4 place in the QFsMWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108126405415770343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-50047606804653882072013-06-12T15:13:18.032+02:002013-06-12T15:13:18.032+02:002: Scotland/Wales/Ireland - Are they serious?!? Th...2: Scotland/Wales/Ireland - Are they serious?!? They hate each other!<br />Check out your facts - this is not true at all. The Celtic nations of the British Isles get along very well. They are probably quite united in their dislike of the English if anything!<br /><br />But I agree on your other point - a 16-team Euro in 1 or 2 countries was just fine, better than the WC in terms of quality andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-59783557608428805702013-06-12T10:38:42.100+02:002013-06-12T10:38:42.100+02:00UEFA has a serious case of megalomania. But we hav...UEFA has a serious case of megalomania. But we have to deal with it. To prevent your scenario with Switzerland and Iceland from happening, you can organise the tournament the same way the WorldCup 1982 took place: 24 teams, nrs. 1 and 2 go to the next round which will be 4 groups of 3 teams. The 4 winners of that group stage qualify for the semi-finals.<br /><br />I know it's not ideal, but Tobcoachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09741550015164246753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-21614970180337470562013-06-12T09:37:18.972+02:002013-06-12T09:37:18.972+02:00I few"king" hate this idea of a 24-team ...I few"king" hate this idea of a 24-team format for the future Euro tournaments. If you take a group of for example: England, Croatia, Switzerland, and Slovakia (FOR EXAMPLE). England and Croatia finish at the top 2 and go through. Switzerland finish 3rd with 4 points with a (-10) goal difference. In another group, the 3rd place team was Iceland with 3 points and (+4) goal difference. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-42914803596613139872013-01-16T00:19:02.279+01:002013-01-16T00:19:02.279+01:00Not too bad either. I think anything which prevent...Not too bad either. I think anything which prevents teams qualifying after a 3rd place group finish is worth looking at. Otherwise the first round is bloated - a lot of games to eliminate few teams.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-18073330886400306462012-12-29T01:42:34.626+01:002012-12-29T01:42:34.626+01:00I'll use the CONCACAF U20 championship to illu...I'll use the CONCACAF U20 championship to illustrate what half of the competition would look like:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_CONCACAF_U-20_Championship<br /><br />Group A: Honduras (6), Guatemala (3)<br />Group B: United States (6), Panama (3)<br />Group C: Costa Rica (6), Canada (3)<br />Group D: Mexico (6), Cuba (1)<br /><br />So this is what the next round would look Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-23959950732578413212012-12-29T01:36:29.383+01:002012-12-29T01:36:29.383+01:00I've been over it so many times in my head and...I've been over it so many times in my head and thought the current idea is the best if you have to have 24.<br /><br />However, maybe you could do something with 3 team groups with your idea for the second stage. Results carrying over would eliminate teams engineering results because they'd need them for the next stage of the competition.<br /><br />So you'd have 2 matches at the Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-12643207226545587492012-12-28T20:01:17.528+01:002012-12-28T20:01:17.528+01:00I like this. It was used at the rugby world cup in...I like this. It was used at the rugby world cup in 95.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-32139731581662360232012-12-28T19:59:37.726+01:002012-12-28T19:59:37.726+01:00I meant 3 out of 4 quater finals in Mexico 86 (not...I meant 3 out of 4 quater finals in Mexico 86 (not semis!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-47085985847728517022012-12-28T19:49:55.137+01:002012-12-28T19:49:55.137+01:00Keeping it at 16 would have been wiser, but as thi...Keeping it at 16 would have been wiser, but as this is now set in stone as 24, my preference would be for the 82 rather than the 86-94 world cup format. However, groups of 3 are not ideal either and some of these groups had 2 initial round 1 group winners and others had 2 runners-up instead. There's a certain imbalance in that.<br /><br />So, why not make a slight adjustment to that Spain 82 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-91790031835816998402012-06-25T10:46:20.879+02:002012-06-25T10:46:20.879+02:00My format suggest 51 games: 36 in 1st round, 12 in...My format suggest 51 games: 36 in 1st round, 12 in 2nd round, 2 semi-finals and 1 final. Individual teams play 3 (when eliminated in 1st round), 5 (eliminated in 2nd round), 6 (semi-final losers) or 7 (finalists) games.<br /><br />And the format that UEFA probably will choose (e.g. the WC1986-1994 format) also suggests 51 games: 36 in 1st round, 8 2nd round, 4 quarter-finales, 2 semi-finals and 1Tobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-84870537791745567342012-06-25T04:10:07.615+02:002012-06-25T04:10:07.615+02:00That format suggest 39 games ... with a three host...That format suggest 39 games ... with a three host format i.e. Republic of Ireland - Scotland - Wales they could all host 13 games each couldn't they?<br /><br />possible groups<br /><br />A. Wales, England, Croatia, Slovenia<br />B. Spain, Portugal, Sweden, Serbia, <br />C. Scotland, Netherlands, Denmark, Bosnia-Herzegovina<br />D. Germany, Russia, Ukraine, Norway<br />E. Republic of IrelandAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-37763032779848300942012-06-22T08:56:12.319+02:002012-06-22T08:56:12.319+02:00Looks promising, but you have to take the group st...Looks promising, but you have to take the group stage into account. If you look at the current UEFA country ranking and take the top 24, you would get the folling line-up:<br /><br />France<br />Spain<br />Germany<br />Netherlands<br />England<br />Italy<br />------------<br />Portugal<br />Greece<br />Russia<br />Croatia<br />Denmark<br />Sweden<br />------------<br />Czech Republic<br />UkraineTobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-22424293694165972022012-06-22T04:13:01.211+02:002012-06-22T04:13:01.211+02:00Damn UEFA for destroying the European Championship...Damn UEFA for destroying the European Championship.<br /><br />Anyway, we can get a look at a potential KO stage last 16 by looking at this year's group stage and going 1st vs 4th 2nd vs 3rd. This is what you get...<br /><br />Czech Republic (1A) vs Netherlands (4B)<br />vs<br />Italy (2C) vs Ukraine (3D)<br /><br />vs<br /><br />Spain (1C) vs Sweden (4D)<br />vs<br />Greece (2A) vs Denmark (Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-91450256409362796632012-06-21T22:08:18.520+02:002012-06-21T22:08:18.520+02:00Best format:
5 groups of 5 teams, group winners qu...Best format:<br />5 groups of 5 teams, group winners qualify straight to the quarter finals, RUs + best 3rd qualify for the PO stage with the 3 winners joining the 5 group winners at the quarter finals.<br />That would mean 25 teams qualify of course with a total of 60 matches. The number of days needed would be 25.Amirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-50382267008665166382012-06-20T21:08:43.605+02:002012-06-20T21:08:43.605+02:00Another alternative is to have 4 groups of 6 teams...Another alternative is to have 4 groups of 6 teams, with the 4 group winners going to the semifinals. As with a tourney with 3 group games and 4 knockout games, no team would play more than 7 games. Most importantly it emphasizes the group stage and reduces the possibility of having to use tie-breakers to settle things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-43410507327272150582012-06-20T18:52:01.999+02:002012-06-20T18:52:01.999+02:00I think Platini has already said that the format f...I think Platini has already said that the format for the 1986-1994 World Cups will be used. Six groups of four and then top two and the four best third-placed teams advance to the round of the last 16. Personally I would rather see just the top two advance and let the four best group winners have a bye to the quarterfinals. <br /><br />Having said that, I think the EURO expansion is a mistake andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-20657284791817244012012-06-20T17:07:21.109+02:002012-06-20T17:07:21.109+02:00Ah yes, the 1982 World Cup. A fine performance by ...Ah yes, the 1982 World Cup. A fine performance by England, sweeping their first group with 3 wins, and drawing with the hosting Spaniards and West Germany in the second group. Unfortunately the Germans beat Spain, to send England home. Spain and Germany in the same group, what a nightmare that would and could have been this year, though not for England.<br /><br />Well they'd just use the Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-89197111704565698082012-06-20T12:07:04.015+02:002012-06-20T12:07:04.015+02:00During the first WorldCup with 24 countries, Spain...During the first WorldCup with 24 countries, Spain 1982, they used the system with 6 groups of 4 teams in the first round, with the best 2 advancinf to the second round. In that second round, the 12 remaining teams were divided into 4 groups of 3.<br /><br />The schedule of play was flexible. The first game was pre-schudeld, but the second and third game not. Depending of the results in the firstTobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-82882748706581718922012-06-20T10:29:40.355+02:002012-06-20T10:29:40.355+02:00The only "true" way of doing it would be...The only "true" way of doing it would be 8 groups of 3 with only the winner advancing to an 8 team KO stage like the one we have now. That would spice up the groups with only the winner advancing and prevent teams conspiring with each other. However, it would reduce the guaranteed number of games for teams teams to just two, and I don't like that. But it would certainly not be Lorricnoreply@blogger.com