tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post6364505513577042112..comments2024-03-28T17:34:31.597+01:00Comments on Football rankings: FIFA Ranking: July 2012 final previewEdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-88850264840362493482012-08-17T11:11:13.222+02:002012-08-17T11:11:13.222+02:00Slovenia kicked out Romania, but there are still 8...Slovenia kicked out Romania, but there are still 8 teams left:<br /><br />Rnk Team 3/2/1/0 ave<br />-----------------------------------<br />1 Tahiti 5/0/0/0 3.0<br />2 Argentina 4/0/0/0 3.0<br />3 Spain 9/1/1/0 2.7<br />4 Austria 3/0/1/0 2.5<br />5 Côte d'Ivoire 9/0/4/0 2.4<br />6 Slovenia 1/0/2/0 1.7<br />7 Hungary 1/0/3/0 1.5<br />8 Uruguay 1/0/4/0 1.4<br /><br />9/11 can bring massive Dillabonghttp://dillabong.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-9363975670633635252012-07-13T07:54:31.976+02:002012-07-13T07:54:31.976+02:00Yes, Alex Thomas a bit surprised by England's ...Yes, Alex Thomas a bit surprised by England's ranking :)Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03420252819752301980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-32439540984982597032012-07-06T10:51:44.253+02:002012-07-06T10:51:44.253+02:00@Lorric
Yes, Alex needed some quotes from me and ...@Lorric<br /><br />Yes, Alex needed some quotes from me and he got them through John Sinnott :)<br /><br />@Tobcoach<br /><br />You're right - but the blog doesn't come first in my list of priorities.Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03420252819752301980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-20611662875495362982012-07-06T09:30:27.074+02:002012-07-06T09:30:27.074+02:00The final preview for the ranking of August isn...The final preview for the ranking of August isn't hard to do. Only four matches scheduled so far, with South Sudan making an entrance with a game against Uganda on July 11th.Tobcoachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09741550015164246753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-14322517317929155682012-07-05T10:37:35.173+02:002012-07-05T10:37:35.173+02:00sorry, I missed Hungary:
Rnk Team 3/2/1/0 ave
---...sorry, I missed Hungary:<br /><br />Rnk Team 3/2/1/0 ave<br />-----------------------------------<br />1 Tahiti 5/0/0/0 3.0<br />2 Argentina 3/0/0/0 3.0<br />3 Spain 8/1/1/0 2.7<br />4 Côte d'Ivoire 9/0/3/0 2.5<br />5 Austria 2/0/1/0 2.3<br />6 Romania 2/0/2/0 2.0<br />7 Hungary 1/0/2/0 1.7<br />8 Uruguay 1/0/3/0 1.5<br /><br />Slovenia (only 2 Matches yet) can kick out Romania in August...Dillabonghttp://dillabong.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-45043712171230791322012-07-05T03:15:02.723+02:002012-07-05T03:15:02.723+02:00I see you there Edgar:
http://worldsport.blogs.cn...I see you there Edgar:<br /><br />http://worldsport.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/04/are-fifas-world-rankings-fit-for-purpose/<br /><br />:)Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-45466416270809696202012-07-04T13:08:32.565+02:002012-07-04T13:08:32.565+02:00there are 7 teams (only the ones which played at l...there are 7 teams (only the ones which played at least 3 matches) left which did not lose in 2012:<br /><br />Rnk Team 3/2/1/0 ave<br />-----------------------------------<br />1 Tahiti 5/0/0/0 3.0<br />2 Argentina 3/0/0/0 3.0<br />3 Spain 8/1/1/0 2.7<br />4 Côte d'Ivoire 9/0/3/0 2.5<br />5 Austria 2/0/1/0 2.3<br />6 Romania 2/0/2/0 2.0<br />7 Uruguay 1/0/3/0 1.5Dillabonghttp://dillabong.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-65630898939687024122012-07-02T16:26:26.576+02:002012-07-02T16:26:26.576+02:00That's very nice, but it's not fair. Spain...That's very nice, but it's not fair. Spain are the champions of everything, but because they've played so many games it dilutes their average. More games into a system that runs on averages is unfair.<br /><br />For instance, imagine if France decided their team was not fit to compete in internationals anymore until the ego problems are sorted, and withdrew from international Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-83835968595614051372012-07-02T14:17:29.258+02:002012-07-02T14:17:29.258+02:00I know, Lorric, I know. And that is being explaine...I know, Lorric, I know. And that is being explained further by another statistical fact.<br /><br />If you look at all the countries that played 20 or more "A"-international games the past 4 years, England has the best points per game-ratio. England played 45 games the past 4 years and has 1294 points, which makes a point per game ratio of 28,76. The top 10:<br /><br />Pl. Country Tobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-69726974036920692202012-07-02T13:52:49.663+02:002012-07-02T13:52:49.663+02:00Very interesting. Pleasantly surprised to see Engl...Very interesting. Pleasantly surprised to see England do so well on all the examples. I'm also glad you included full 100% as I've toyed with that idea too. I generally dismissed the idea though after what's happened to Egypt, going from champs to chumps in the blink of an eye. They'd be feeding a lot of undeserved points to the teams that beat them under full 100%. International Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-60938482383883954062012-07-02T11:03:41.297+02:002012-07-02T11:03:41.297+02:00I've made some tables with different weighting...I've made some tables with different weightings. The first table uses the same timeframes as FIFA, but the weighting is the same, so every timeframe counts 100%:<br /><br />1 Spain 3420<br />2 Germany 2827<br />3 Netherlands 2724<br />4 Brazil 2506<br />5 England 2504<br />6 Uruguay 2358<br />7 Portugal 2196<br />8 Argentina 2174<br />9 Italy 2172<br />10 Greece 2001<br /><br />Second table Tobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-32744270451208051582012-06-30T15:45:06.830+02:002012-06-30T15:45:06.830+02:00Yes , I have a database with all the results and c...Yes , I have a database with all the results and corresponding points . And with that I can calculate all the weighting factors. I wanted to post it yesterday but I didn't have time. Maybe tonight , for now I'm watching the prologue of the Tour de France.Tobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-73598474938221862892012-06-30T13:47:04.397+02:002012-06-30T13:47:04.397+02:00I take it you mean 2013.
Under my proposal of 2 y...I take it you mean 2013.<br /><br />Under my proposal of 2 years being worth 100% it would be 100%.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-19598800542356572552012-06-29T23:48:30.864+02:002012-06-29T23:48:30.864+02:00Lorric: The World Cup draw will be made in Novembe...Lorric: The World Cup draw will be made in November 2012, so the Euro will be at 50%.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-88930021758370546222012-06-29T16:12:22.533+02:002012-06-29T16:12:22.533+02:00Oh wait, I see the potential problem. But I still ...Oh wait, I see the potential problem. But I still don't think it would impact unfairly on South America though, as they'd still have their mass of qualifiers before the World Cup. Essentially a bigger, better Copa America, with the slighlty lower bonus multiplier offset by more games than both competitions put together and no minnows to drag averages down.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-91949983562929251842012-06-29T16:07:53.066+02:002012-06-29T16:07:53.066+02:00How do you do that? Do you have a database you can...How do you do that? Do you have a database you can tweak the percentages for or something?<br /><br />I'm actually liking my 100/100/50/50 idea the most now. It seems both the fairest and by far the simplest.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-49434446074197727112012-06-29T16:05:38.625+02:002012-06-29T16:05:38.625+02:00Just to clarify, the European Championship would s...Just to clarify, the European Championship would still be at 100% when the World Cup draw was made.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-64887016237622064072012-06-29T16:03:25.400+02:002012-06-29T16:03:25.400+02:00It would have no impact on seedings though. And th...It would have no impact on seedings though. And there are plenty of quirky happenings like that in the current rankings, which is why people see them as a joke. Way too much drastic change and seemingly inexplicable change.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-38645363983222879892012-06-29T15:27:34.933+02:002012-06-29T15:27:34.933+02:00I will calculate those rankings tonight, and post ...I will calculate those rankings tonight, and post them here.Tobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-32349164730093571892012-06-29T15:20:18.619+02:002012-06-29T15:20:18.619+02:00Compared to the inflation after every tournament w...Compared to the inflation after every tournament we have now, it would at least be an improvement. They'd be artifically deflated before every World Cup, too.<br /><br />Best possible illustration: New Zealand are going up in the rankings after losing to a micronation.Haakonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-23757173228995296402012-06-29T14:41:05.444+02:002012-06-29T14:41:05.444+02:00Interesting proposal Lorric. Biggest downside I c...Interesting proposal Lorric. Biggest downside I can think of is the over inflation of CONMEBOL teams after Copa America as both that and the World Cup would be at 100% value.CWY2190https://www.blogger.com/profile/07489877587725781507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-53474587194572111502012-06-29T13:06:04.838+02:002012-06-29T13:06:04.838+02:00I really dislike the 100/50/30/20 ratio. It's ...I really dislike the 100/50/30/20 ratio. It's too extreme having the last year worth the same as all 3 years before that combined.<br /><br />I'd like to see what a 100/75/50/25 ratio would look like.<br /><br />Or what about 100/100/50/50? International football is on a 2 year cycle.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-90161563815420233212012-06-29T12:48:04.806+02:002012-06-29T12:48:04.806+02:00If you take a look to the way the points are build...If you take a look to the way the points are build up, you could analyse the form of some teams by looking at their points in the last timeframe. Sao Tome e Principe score 100% of their points in the last 12 months, which counts for 50% of the total points.Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea And Andorra did the same thing.<br /><br />Looking at the top-countries, Spain scores 46,5%, Germany 54,5%, Tobcoachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-61873656936214109322012-06-29T12:35:05.415+02:002012-06-29T12:35:05.415+02:00On second thoughts, maybe I was being harsh. I do ...On second thoughts, maybe I was being harsh. I do honestly believe they were better under Bradley, but I was looking at his results, and he's actually raised USA's ELO rank by 7pts in his time there.<br /><br />Not being beaten like a drum as I said earlier anyway. They've won some matches.Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-17168069808462419262012-06-29T12:27:45.789+02:002012-06-29T12:27:45.789+02:00*how much better he'd be for England**how much better he'd be for England*Lorricnoreply@blogger.com