tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post8952987913342461524..comments2024-03-18T00:03:11.385+01:00Comments on Football rankings: 2014 FIFA World Cup: A look at the CAF play-off pots scenariosEdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-34805112386611305622013-09-20T15:35:02.692+02:002013-09-20T15:35:02.692+02:00I agree that the method should be simple but I do ...I agree that the method should be simple but I do not think my proposal is too complicated. In fact, I could calculated the alternative ranking. In the table, I post the top 50 NT. The first 4 columns corresponds to the factor 2 (my proposal) that is the weight (per match) by time frame. In all cases the weight matches have the same relationship with <br />of the 100% time frame (20% for the 4th Federico Estebanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230004561888756222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-76294811597260895842013-09-20T15:15:31.831+02:002013-09-20T15:15:31.831+02:00Ed, I don't know well what happened in most ca...Ed, I don't know well what happened in most cases. But, the lower weight (per match) depends on how many matches were played in each time frame. I have calculated the weight for each match by time frame (Factor 1). As you will see, there are many cases were older matches have bigger weight, than recent matches (in the list I excluded NT that played less than 5 matches in at least one year). IFederico Estebanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230004561888756222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-34057023275489437632013-09-20T10:09:39.059+02:002013-09-20T10:09:39.059+02:00Federico, I would consider this an exception, not ...Federico, I would consider this an exception, not a flaw. I think your point is that FIFA contradicts their own premise. But like Ed said, some years ago people were complaining because the ranking was too complicated (considered home/away condition, number of goals scores, 8 year time frame), and FIFA was trying to make it simple so people could easily grasp the idea (but even now, the majority Juanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07553859396621029721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-42243488190662329162013-09-20T09:24:51.335+02:002013-09-20T09:24:51.335+02:00Under normal conditions where each time frame aver...Under normal conditions where each time frame average of a team lies in the same order of magnitude, your fair wish will come true. Each match that shifts to the next time frame will get a lower weight (per match). And most teams act under these normal conditions.<br /><br />However, there are some exceptions, like Burkina Faso and Panama and surely some others. I agree with you that your Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-30657884415093995012013-09-20T00:36:13.347+02:002013-09-20T00:36:13.347+02:00It's true that the explanation of the ranking ...It's true that the explanation of the ranking procedure never said that the result of individual matches is becoming less important over the years. But I think that's the idea of the weight factor. Older matches should have less contribution to the actual ranking. For me seems very logical. I don't know which is Ranking FIFA goal. But if FIFA shares my idea, then the ranking method Federico Estebanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230004561888756222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-22057829207479817822013-09-19T23:38:01.169+02:002013-09-19T23:38:01.169+02:00OK, I understand your point.
But the ranking work...OK, I understand your point.<br /><br />But the ranking works with average points per match in a time frame and only that average is weighted, not each match seperately. The number of matches over which the average in a time frame is determined doesn't play any role in the weighting. There is no weight per match, only a weight per time frame for the average performance.<br /><br />If the Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-1344443778821627152013-09-19T22:31:48.187+02:002013-09-19T22:31:48.187+02:00Hi Ed, my points is that the matches that were pla...Hi Ed, my points is that the matches that were played more time ago, should have less weight in the actual ranking, according to the idea of FIFA weight factor (100% last year, 50%, 30% and 20%). So always, no matter what, when a match enter in an older period, it should have less influence in the current ranking, than the recent matches. And the formula should reflex that idea. As I we could seeFederico Estebanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230004561888756222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-66703810510493270072013-09-19T22:16:48.556+02:002013-09-19T22:16:48.556+02:00Federico,
Current september ranking for BFA:
1st ...Federico,<br /><br />Current september ranking for BFA:<br />1st tf: 415.994 per match<br />2nd tf: 46.118 per match (* 0.5 weight) = 23.059<br />3rd tf: 285.827 per match (* 0.3 weight) = 85.748<br />4th tf: 413.351 per match (* 0.2 weight) = 82.670<br />sum 607.47<br /><br />If you move the 6 CAN 2013 matches to the 2nd time frame:<br />1st tf: 359.480 per match<br />2nd tf: 216.505 per match (Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-8774667792016085302013-09-19T22:11:16.062+02:002013-09-19T22:11:16.062+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-86753220868059090942013-09-19T21:26:33.896+02:002013-09-19T21:26:33.896+02:00Hello everyone
I'm going to propose an exerci...Hello everyone<br /><br />I'm going to propose an exercise, especially those that can calculate the FIFA ranking (Edgar, Jeroen, Ed). Believe me, the result is at least curious.<br /><br />This is the current ranking of African teams in the race for Brazil 2014:<br /><br /># NT 100%<br />1 Ivory Coast 902<br />2 Ghana 815<br />3 Algeria 762<br />4 Nigeria 707<br />5 Tunisia 643<br />6 Egypt Federico Estebanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230004561888756222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-31303814160937549412013-09-13T11:03:30.389+02:002013-09-13T11:03:30.389+02:00Rooting for Ethiopia and Burkina Faso. Too bad for...Rooting for Ethiopia and Burkina Faso. Too bad for Cape Verde Islands. Incredible management blunder.Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03420252819752301980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-83083745470303283012013-09-13T11:02:37.890+02:002013-09-13T11:02:37.890+02:00Thanks Pinyan! Fixed now.Thanks Pinyan! Fixed now.Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03420252819752301980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-393270706964477132013-09-12T16:49:52.083+02:002013-09-12T16:49:52.083+02:00And another awarded match: Tunisia - Cape Verde. T...And another awarded match: Tunisia - Cape Verde. That makes 8 awarded matches in Africa in this qualifying campaign so far. Unique !<br />Tunisia now qualified for the play-offs and seeded. Very disappointing (and stupid) for Cape Verde.<br /><br />http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/news/newsid=2172738/index.htmlEdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-86435993744514518602013-09-12T16:48:38.943+02:002013-09-12T16:48:38.943+02:00Cape Verde out of the play-offs for fielding an in...Cape Verde out of the play-offs for fielding an ineligible player. Tunisa wins the match 3-0. From FIFA:<br /><br />http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/news/newsid=2172738/index.html<br />Juanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07553859396621029721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-88424586157700081442013-09-10T00:06:33.595+02:002013-09-10T00:06:33.595+02:00I really hope Egypt will make it to the WC. I mean...I really hope Egypt will make it to the WC. I mean, we won the african cup of nations three times in a row ( 2006, 2008 , 2010 ) yet we can't qualify to WC. We always beat Cameeron and Cote d'ivoire in CAN but we they always qualify and we don't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-82511867493093011092013-09-09T20:30:24.937+02:002013-09-09T20:30:24.937+02:00Cote d'Ivoire - Ethiopia;
Ghana - Egypt;
Alg...Cote d'Ivoire - Ethiopia; <br />Ghana - Egypt; <br />Algeria - Burkina Faso;<br />Nigeria - Senegal;<br />Cape Verde - Cameroon;<br />If one of the debutants makes it through, they will certainly not run the risk of being underestimated.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-14593943742959859052013-09-09T19:47:10.543+02:002013-09-09T19:47:10.543+02:00I really hope Cape Verde will be at the World cup....I really hope Cape Verde will be at the World cup. I mean they have beaten Cameroon in the qualifiers for Africa cup 2013 and reached quarter finals in that tournament (to be beaten by Ghana in a quite equal match). Now they have knocked out Tunisia wich also is a big name in African football.<br /><br />Maybe they should draw a big name again (Cameroon again maybe?) and advance.<br /><br />From Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-8396315427569555722013-09-08T21:37:51.084+02:002013-09-08T21:37:51.084+02:00Awww, no one wants Cape Verde Islands vs. Ethiopia...Awww, no one wants Cape Verde Islands vs. Ethiopia? <br /><br />Alright, next question. Anyone up for Algeria vs Egypt? 2010 all over again, it'll be a great spectacle!<br /><br />Lorricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-91058027520606329702013-09-08T20:48:39.616+02:002013-09-08T20:48:39.616+02:00Nigeria. Full strength they look tremendous and al...Nigeria. Full strength they look tremendous and almost without a weakness. Plus Mikel is majestic. If they had an efficient striker at the Confed Cup they would have beat Uruguay easily.<br /><br />Cote d'Ivoire. Still a top shelf team, just need a less deadly draw.<br /><br />As for Algeria... don't think much of them. Place higher chances on Egypt, Cameroon, Senegal or even Burkina Faso.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-55190323040000325452013-09-08T18:54:17.759+02:002013-09-08T18:54:17.759+02:00I really cannot see any African team with a compet...I really cannot see any African team with a competitive edge at the next WC except maybe for Ghana and, to a lesser degree, Algeria ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-26519942545018225502013-09-08T18:26:19.662+02:002013-09-08T18:26:19.662+02:00Cameroon just beat Libya (1-0).Cameroon just beat Libya (1-0).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-6358698631936192582013-09-08T10:37:07.638+02:002013-09-08T10:37:07.638+02:00And no need for 'conspiracy theories' abou...And no need for 'conspiracy theories' about the friendly Nigeria - Burkina Faso this Tuesday.<br /><br />About the draw: I think all the seeds want to avoid Egypt and all the unseeds would like to draw Cape Verde. Although, if you are capable of beating Tunisia at home in a do-or-die match... They are evidently no push-overs.<br />I agree with the anonymouses above: Africa needs a strong Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06640136267487836463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-11948659604434241762013-09-08T09:30:16.992+02:002013-09-08T09:30:16.992+02:00Senegal has a terrible defence.
Nigeria dissapoin...Senegal has a terrible defence.<br /><br />Nigeria dissapointing at the Confed Cup? Apart from the fact that they outplayed Uruguay and would have won were it not for horrendous finishing, you do remember they were missing 3 out of their 4 key players (Emenike, Moses, Onazi), which really made a world of difference regarding midfield control and attacking prowess.<br /><br />I really hope BurkinaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-3834288758031566662013-09-08T01:44:44.431+02:002013-09-08T01:44:44.431+02:00yeah.. I hope Cape Verde (also portuguese speakin...yeah.. I hope Cape Verde (also portuguese speaking) comes to Brazil next year :)Daniel Burnierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15938182554526807988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1631997616728141521.post-64179119931315113832013-09-08T01:43:17.514+02:002013-09-08T01:43:17.514+02:00No, please no... I used to be happy to see "s...No, please no... I used to be happy to see "small" teams make it to the world cup but remembering the past performances of Togo, Angola and even Tunisia on the world stage, i'd rather see the traditional African powerhouses make it. Won't even be rooting for Algeria...<br /> I really hope for Côte d'ivoire, Ghana, Egypt, Cameroon and Senegal to make it (Nigeria were Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com