Andreas Dimatos, the director of Greek sports daily newspaper Goal News, published a very interesting article concerning the changes in coefficient calculation that UEFA will implement from next season (2008-2009).
Bert Kassies has translated the most relevant parts:
UEFA Europa League by Andreas Dimatos
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Changes in coefficient
1) club coefficient ... from next season not added the 33% of the country coefficient, but it will be reduced to 20%. This will benefit medium strenth clubs (that don’t benefit from the low coefficient from their country, unlike clubs from e.g. Spain) and also the clubs that regularly (annualy) play in Europe and have their own points, in stead of being supported by their country coefficient.
2) the bonus of 3 pts for entering the group phase of the champions league, will be raised to 4 point (thus equalling 2 ‘paper’ wins) and the same bonus will be given to teams qualifying to the round of 16, in stead of just the 1 point that this yielded till this year.
3) the clubs will benefit from their points in the qualifying rounds, while till now these points (reduced to half their value) only went to the country coefficient. The basic rule is that the points they will get will be standard and independent from the match results. This way, for the first Q-round of UEFA cup they will obtain 0.25 pts, for the Q2 0.5 and for Q3 1.000 and for Q4 1.5 and for qualyfying for the group phase 2.0 pts. The same way, in the 1st qualif round of the CL the bonus will be 0.5 pts, Q2 1.0 pts. No points bonus is foreseen for Q3 (as the teams that will not qualify will continue in the last Q round of UEFA cup), also no added bonus for the play offs (as the teams that qualify will get 4 pts for the group phase of CL and those losing will get 2 pts for the UEFA group phase).
Mr. Dimatos has been kind enough to vouch for the validity of his UEFA source although understandably he couldn't tell me their identity. However, he did promise to keep me informed of new developments.
For more scenarios, take a look at the "Changes in calculating club coefficients from 2009" topic.
Bert has already computed the rankings and coefficients applying the new rules. Here are some of his posts:
Date: 26-09-2008, 21:09
Coefficients and rankings 2009 calculated with the new method (retroactive). Assuming table of MTC except bonus points for winning the final (not sure and my program needs more adaptation).
Country Ranking 2009
Country Coefficients 2009
Team Ranking 2009
Team Coefficients 2009
Date: 27-09-2008, 13:00
Coeffcients when applying ALL changes retroactively:
Country Ranking 2009
Country Coefficients 2009
Country Coefficients 2008
Country Coefficients 2007
Country Coefficients 2006
Country Coefficients 2005
Team Ranking 2009
Team Coefficients 2009
Team Coefficients 2008
Team Coefficients 2007
Team Coefficients 2006
Team Coefficients 2005
Date: 27-09-2008, 19:26
And then finally the most probable Team Ranking that will be used for seeding next season. I think that only the new 20% country contribution will be used retroactive, so only the Team Ranking 2009 will be changed. The Country Ranking 2009 will not change. I assume that the new bonuspoints and points for qualifying will not be used retroactive, and thus the rankings for 2009/10 will be the first to use the new calculation method.
Team Ranking 2009 with of 20% country contribution.
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Tuesday, September 30, 2008
Tuesday, May 27, 2008
Country ranking prediction 2008/2009 (27 May 2008)
Fixed: added group stage points for all the countries. Thanks Ricardo! I hope it's ok now. :)
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References:
Country ranking 2007/2008 prediction by Ricardo.
2008 Qualification from Bert Kassies.
2008 Seeding CL from Bert Kassies.
2008 Seeding UC from Bert Kassies.
The seeded teams always qualify for the next stage.
In KO matches, the seeded team gets 4 points (i.e. a win and a draw).
In group play, I used the coefficient points averages from the last four seasons (for the UEFA Cup) or only from the last season (for the UEFA Champions League).
Columns: Rank 08/09, Rank 07/08, Country, Coef0408, Coef0809, Coef0409
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References:
Country ranking 2007/2008 prediction by Ricardo.
2008 Qualification from Bert Kassies.
2008 Seeding CL from Bert Kassies.
2008 Seeding UC from Bert Kassies.
The seeded teams always qualify for the next stage.
In KO matches, the seeded team gets 4 points (i.e. a win and a draw).
In group play, I used the coefficient points averages from the last four seasons (for the UEFA Cup) or only from the last season (for the UEFA Champions League).
Columns: Rank 08/09, Rank 07/08, Country, Coef0408, Coef0809, Coef0409
1 1 England 64.499 15.337 79.836
2 2 Spain 60.954 15.641 76.595
3 3 Italy 51.535 13.656 65.191
4 5 Germany 44.008 9.523 53.531
5 4 France 39.168 9.638 48.806
6 6 Russia 37.875 9.672 47.547
7 7 Romania 36.266 5.804 42.070
8 9 Netherlands 32.797 6.734 39.531
9 8 Portugal 29.677 8.478 38.155
10 10 Scotland 26.000 7.300 33.300
11 11 Turkey 25.225 6.680 31.905
12 12 Ukraine 25.225 6.414 31.639
13 14 Greece 21.665 6.850 28.515
14 13 Belgium 20.825 5.430 26.255
15 16 Switzerland 22.350 3.200 25.550
16 15 Czech Republic 18.375 4.531 22.906
17 17 Bulgaria 19.000 3.375 22.375
18 20 Austria 15.575 4.667 20.242
19 18 Norway 16.300 3.931 20.231
20 19 Denmark 16.250 3.638 19.888
21 21 Serbia 12.250 3.172 15.422
22 22 Israel 13.500 1.750 15.250
23 23 Sweden 12.191 2.000 14.191
24 24 Slovakia 9.832 2.833 12.665
25 27 Croatia 7.999 2.833 10.832
26 28 Cyprus 8.749 2.000 10.749
27 25 Poland 7.916 2.333 10.249
28 31 Latvia 7.998 2.000 9.998
29 30 Finland 7.957 2.000 9.957
30 29 Slovenia 7.749 2.000 9.749
31 26 Hungary 7.166 2.167 9.333
32 33 Lithuania 7.166 1.500 8.666
33 34 Moldova 5.999 2.000 7.999
34 35 Ireland 6.999 1.000 7.999
35 32 Bosnia-Herzegovina 6.832 1.000 7.832
36 37 Iceland 5.499 1.500 6.999
37 38 Georgia 5.498 1.000 6.498
38 39 Liechtenstein 5.500 0.500 6.000
39 36 Macedonia 4.665 1.000 5.665
40 40 Belarus 4.666 0.500 5.166
41 41 Estonia 3.999 0.500 4.499
42 42 Azerbaijan 3.832 0.500 4.332
43 43 Albania 3.333 0.500 3.833
44 44 Armenia 2.999 0.500 3.499
45 45 Kazakhstan 2.416 0.500 2.916
46 47 Wales 1.998 0.500 2.498
47 46 Northern Ireland 1.832 0.500 2.332
48 48 Faroe Islands 1.832 0.500 2.332
49 49 Luxembourg 1.332 0.500 1.832
50 51 Andorra 0.500 0.500 1.000
51 52 Montenegro 0.500 0.500 1.000
52 50 Malta 0.499 0.500 0.999
53 53 San Marino 0.250 0.500 0.750
Monday, September 17, 2007
Planul lui Platini pentru Liga Campionilor
Presedintele UEFA, Michel Platini, a propus un nou format pentru Cupele Europene -> Format proposals on agenda. Aceste schimbari ar urma sa fie aplicate incepand cu sezonul 2009/2010.
Pentru mai multe informatii, cititi si acest subiect de pe forumul lui Bert Kassies.
Pentru inceput, iata cum ar arata Liga Campionilor
Cititi si: Planul lui Platini pentru Cupa UEFA.
Calificari pentru echipele campioane
Primul tur preliminar
32 de campioane din tarile aflate pe locul 21 sau mai jos
Al doilea tur preliminar
16 echipe din primul tur + 8 campioane din tarile 13 - 20
Al treilea tur preliminar
12 echipe din al doilea tur -> 6 echipe in grupele Ligii Campionilor
Calificari pentru castigatoarele cupelor
Primul tur preliminar
16 castigatoare ale cupelor din tarile 1 - 16
Al doilea tur preliminar
8 echipe din primul tur -> 4 echipe in grupele Ligii Campionilor
Grupele
Detinatoarea trofeului
12 campioane din tarile 1 - 12
6 echipe plasate pe locul al doilea in tarile 1 - 6
3 echipe plasate pe locul al treilea in tarile 1 - 3
Cum ar fi aratat Liga Campionilor daca aceste schimbari ar fi fost implementate incepand cu acest sezon?
Calificari pentru echipele campioane
Primul tur preliminar
Urna 1 (capi de serie):
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Dinamo Zagreb | Croatia | 17.533 |
| DVSC Debrecen | Ungaria | 11.675 |
| APOEL Nicosia | Cipru | 6.492 |
| Zaglebie Lubin | Polonia | 5.609 |
| NK Domzale | Slovenia | 5.272 |
| IF Elfsborg | Suedia | 4.478 |
| FK Sarajevo | Bosnia-Hertegovina | 4.190 |
| FK Ventspils | Letonia | 3.860 |
| MSK Zilina | Slovacia | 3.575 |
| Derry City | Irlanda | 3.145 |
| FH Hafnarfjardar | Islanda | 2.650 |
| FBK Kaunas | Lituania | 2.420 |
| Tampere United | Finlanda | 2.420 |
| Sheriff Tiraspol | Moldova | 2.365 |
| Olimpi Rustavi | Georgia | 2.035 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Pobeda Prilep | Macedonia | 1.925 |
| BATE Borisov | Belarus | 1.540 |
| SK Tirana | Albania | 1.265 |
| Levadia Tallinn | Estonia | 1.210 |
| Pyunik Yerevan | Armenia | 1.155 |
| Khazar Lenkoran | Azerbaidjan | 1.045 |
| FK Astana | Kazahstan | 0.770 |
| Linfield Belfast | Irlanda de Nord | 0.715 |
| The New Saints | Tara Galilor | 0.660 |
| HB Torshavn | Insulele Feroe | 0.550 |
| F91 Dudelange | Luxemburg | 0.550 |
| Marsaxlokk | Malta | 0.550 |
| Ràngers FC | Andorra | 0.000 |
| Murata | San Marino | 0.000 |
| Zeta Golubovci | Muntenegru | 0.000 |
Al doilea tur preliminar
Urna 1 (capi de serie):
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Olympiakos Piraeus | Grecia | 42.415 |
| Levski Sofia | Bulgaria | 38.112 |
| Fenerbahçe | Turcia | 36.791 |
| Rosenborg BK | Norvegia | 31.509 |
| Red Star Belgrade | Serbia | 19.256 |
| FC København | Danemarca | 19.129 |
| Dinamo Zagreb | Croatia | 17.533 |
| DVSC Debrecen | Ungaria | 11.675 |
| FC Zürich | Elvetia | 9.869 |
| FC Salzburg | Austria | 9.104 |
| APOEL Nicosia | Cipru | 6.492 |
| Beitar Jerusalem | Israel | 6.338 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Zaglebie Lubin | Polonia | 5.609 |
| NK Domzale | Slovenia | 5.272 |
| IF Elfsborg | Suedia | 4.478 |
| FK Sarajevo | Bosnia-Hertegovina | 4.190 |
| FK Ventspils | Letonia | 3.860 |
| MSK Zilina | Slovacia | 3.575 |
| Derry City | Irlanda | 3.145 |
| FH Hafnarfjardar | Islanda | 2.650 |
| FBK Kaunas | Lituania | 2.420 |
| Tampere United | Finlanda | 2.420 |
| Sheriff Tiraspol | Moldova | 2.365 |
| Olimpi Rustavi | Georgia | 2.035 |
Al treilea tur preliminar
Urna 1 (capi de serie):
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Olympiakos Piraeus | Grecia | 42.415 |
| Levski Sofia | Bulgaria | 38.112 |
| Fenerbahçe | Turcia | 36.791 |
| Rosenborg BK | Norvegia | 31.509 |
| Red Star Belgrade | Serbia | 19.256 |
| FC København | Danemarca | 19.129 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Dinamo Zagreb | Croatia | 17.533 |
| DVSC Debrecen | Ungaria | 11.675 |
| FC Zürich | Elvetia | 9.869 |
| FC Salzburg | Austria | 9.104 |
| APOEL Nicosia | Cipru | 6.492 |
| Beitar Jerusalem | Israel | 6.338 |
Calificari pentru castigatoarele cupei
Primul tur preliminar
Urna 1 (capi de serie):
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Arsenal | Anglia | 104.618 |
| Valencia | Spania | 99.374 |
| Benfica | Portugalia | 67.107 |
| Ajax | Olanda | 65.995 |
| Lazio Roma | Italia | 51.808 |
| Glasgow Rangers | Scotia | 47.064 |
| Club Brugge | Belgia | 45.594 |
| Shakhtar Donetsk | Ucraina | 44.726 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Besiktas | Turcia | 43.791 |
| Rapid Bucuresti | Romania | 40.255 |
| Lokomotiv Moscow | Rusia | 38.920 |
| FC Sochaux-Montbéliard | Franta | 36.706 |
| Slavia Praha | Cehia | 32.851 |
| CSKA Sofia | Bulgaria | 20.112 |
| 1.FC Nürnberg | Germania | 14.640 |
| AE Larissa | Grecia | 8.415 |
Al doilea tur preliminar
Urna 1 (capi de serie):
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Arsenal | Anglia | 104.618 |
| Valencia | Spania | 99.374 |
| Benfica | Portugalia | 67.107 |
| Ajax | Olanda | 65.995 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Lazio Roma | Italia | 51.808 |
| Glasgow Rangers | Scotia | 47.064 |
| Club Brugge | Belgia | 45.594 |
| Shakhtar Donetsk | Ucraina | 44.726 |
Grupele Ligii Campionilor
Urna 1:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| AC Milan | Italia | 133.808 |
| FC Barcelona | Spania | 119.374 |
| Liverpool | Anglia | 112.618 |
| Internazionale | Italia | 107.808 |
| Arsenal | Anglia | 104.618 |
| Real Madrid | Spania | 104.374 |
| Manchester United | Anglia | 99.618 |
| Chelsea | Anglia | 99.618 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Valencia | Spania | 99.374 |
| Olympique Lyon | Franta | 95.706 |
| FC Porto | Portugalia | 89.107 |
| Sevilla | Spania | 87.374 |
| PSV Eindhoven | Olanda | 81.995 |
| AS Roma | Italia | 78.808 |
| Benfica | Portugalia | 67.107 |
| Ajax | Olanda | 65.995 |
Urna 3:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Celtic | Scotia | 62.064 |
| Schalke 04 | Germania | 60.640 |
| VfB Stuttgart | Germania | 58.640 |
| CSKA Moscow | Rusia | 53.920 |
| Sporting CP Lisbon | Portugalia | 52.107 |
| Olympique Marseille | Franta | 51.706 |
| Olympiakos Piraeus | Grecia | 42.415 |
| Anderlecht | Belgia | 41.594 |
Urna 4:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Dinamo Kiev | Ucraina | 38.726 |
| Levski Sofia | Bulgaria | 38.112 |
| Sparta Praha | Cehia | 37.851 |
| Fenerbahçe | Turcia | 36.791 |
| Dinamo Bucuresti | Romania | 34.255 |
| Rosenborg BK | Norvegia | 31.509 |
| Red Star Belgrade | Serbia | 19.256 |
| FC København | Danemarca | 19.129 |
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