Tuesday, September 30, 2008
European Cups: Changes in coefficient calculation
Bert Kassies has translated the most relevant parts:
UEFA Europa League by Andreas Dimatos
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Changes in coefficient
1) club coefficient ... from next season not added the 33% of the country coefficient, but it will be reduced to 20%. This will benefit medium strenth clubs (that don’t benefit from the low coefficient from their country, unlike clubs from e.g. Spain) and also the clubs that regularly (annualy) play in Europe and have their own points, in stead of being supported by their country coefficient.
2) the bonus of 3 pts for entering the group phase of the champions league, will be raised to 4 point (thus equalling 2 ‘paper’ wins) and the same bonus will be given to teams qualifying to the round of 16, in stead of just the 1 point that this yielded till this year.
3) the clubs will benefit from their points in the qualifying rounds, while till now these points (reduced to half their value) only went to the country coefficient. The basic rule is that the points they will get will be standard and independent from the match results. This way, for the first Q-round of UEFA cup they will obtain 0.25 pts, for the Q2 0.5 and for Q3 1.000 and for Q4 1.5 and for qualyfying for the group phase 2.0 pts. The same way, in the 1st qualif round of the CL the bonus will be 0.5 pts, Q2 1.0 pts. No points bonus is foreseen for Q3 (as the teams that will not qualify will continue in the last Q round of UEFA cup), also no added bonus for the play offs (as the teams that qualify will get 4 pts for the group phase of CL and those losing will get 2 pts for the UEFA group phase).
Mr. Dimatos has been kind enough to vouch for the validity of his UEFA source although understandably he couldn't tell me their identity. However, he did promise to keep me informed of new developments.
For more scenarios, take a look at the "Changes in calculating club coefficients from 2009" topic.
Bert has already computed the rankings and coefficients applying the new rules. Here are some of his posts:
Date: 26-09-2008, 21:09
Coefficients and rankings 2009 calculated with the new method (retroactive). Assuming table of MTC except bonus points for winning the final (not sure and my program needs more adaptation).
Country Ranking 2009
Country Coefficients 2009
Team Ranking 2009
Team Coefficients 2009
Date: 27-09-2008, 13:00
Coeffcients when applying ALL changes retroactively:
Country Ranking 2009
Country Coefficients 2009
Country Coefficients 2008
Country Coefficients 2007
Country Coefficients 2006
Country Coefficients 2005
Team Ranking 2009
Team Coefficients 2009
Team Coefficients 2008
Team Coefficients 2007
Team Coefficients 2006
Team Coefficients 2005
Date: 27-09-2008, 19:26
And then finally the most probable Team Ranking that will be used for seeding next season. I think that only the new 20% country contribution will be used retroactive, so only the Team Ranking 2009 will be changed. The Country Ranking 2009 will not change. I assume that the new bonuspoints and points for qualifying will not be used retroactive, and thus the rankings for 2009/10 will be the first to use the new calculation method.
Team Ranking 2009 with of 20% country contribution.
Monday, September 17, 2007
Planul lui Platini pentru Cupa UEFA
Presedintele UEFA, Michel Platini, a propus un nou format pentru Cupele Europene -> Format proposals on agenda. Aceste schimbari ar urma sa fie aplicate incepand cu sezonul 2009/2010.
Pentru mai multe informatii, cititi si acest subiect de pe forumul lui Bert Kassies.
Cititi si: Planul lui Platini pentru Liga Campionilor.
Iata cum ar arata Cupa UEFA.
De notat: Cupa UEFA Intertoto ar urma sa fie desfiintata.
Primul tur preliminar
88 de echipe
27 de castigatoare ale cupei din tarile aflate pe locul 27 sau mai jos
34 de echipe plasate pe locul al doilea din tarile aflate pe locul 17 sau mai jos (exceptie fac Liechtenstein, Andorra si San Marino)
14 echipe plasate pe locul al treilea in tarile 13 - 26
8 echipe plasate pe locul al patrulea in tarile 9 - 16
2 echipe plasate pe locul al cincilea in tarile 7 - 8
3 castigatoare ale competitiei Fair Play
Al doilea tur preliminar
72 de echipe
44 de castigatoare din primul tur preliminar
10 castigatoare ale cupei din tarile 17 - 26
4 echipe plasate pe locul al doilea in tarile 13 - 16
6 echipe plasate pe locul al treilea in tarile 7 - 12
2 echipe plasate locul al patrulea in tarile 7 - 8
3 echipe plasate pe locul al cincilea in tarile 4 - 6
3 echipe plasate pe locul al saselea in tarile 1 - 3
Primul tur
74 de echipe
36 de castigatoare din al doilea tur preliminar
20 de echipe din Liga Campionilor (invinsele din al doilea tur preliminar pentru campioane - 12 echipe, respectiv primul tur preliminar pentru castigatoarele cupei - 8 echipe)
6 echipe plasate pe locul al doilea in tarile 7 - 12
3 echipe plasate pe locul al treilea in tarile 4 - 6
6 echipe plasate locul al patrulea in tarile 1 - 6
3 echipe plasate pe locul al cincilea in tarile 1 - 3
Grupele Cupei UEFA
48 de echipe
Detinatoarea trofeului
10 echipe din Liga Campionilor (invinsele din al treilea tur preliminar pentru campioane - 6 echipe, respectiv al doilea tur preliminar pentru castigatoarele cupei - 4 echipe)
37 de castigatoare din primul tur
Cele 48 de echipe vor fi impartite in 12 grupe a cate 4 echipe. Fiecare echipa va juca 6 meciuri in grupa, iar primele doua echipe din fiecare grupa se vor califica in saisprezecimi.
Saisprezecimi
12 castigatoare ale grupelor
12 echipe plasate pe locul al doilea
8 echipe plasate pe locul al treilea in grupele din Liga Campionilor
Cum ar fi aratat Cupa UEFA daca aceste schimbari ar fi fost implementate incepand cu acest sezon?
Primul tur preliminar
Urna 1 (capi de serie):
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Panathinaikos | Grecia | 55.415 |
| Slovan Liberec | Cehia | 23.851 |
| Litex Lovech | Bulgaria | 19.112 |
| FC Groningen | Olanda | 14.995 |
| Maccabi Tel-Aviv | Israel | 14.338 |
| Trabzonspor | Turcia | 13.791 |
| Petrzalka Bratislava | Slovacia | 13.575 |
| Aris Thessaloniki | Grecia | 13.415 |
| Gloria Bistrita | Romania | 13.255 |
| Rubin Kazan | Rusia | 11.920 |
| Legia Warsaw | Polonia | 11.609 |
| Vålerengen IF | Norvegia | 11.509 |
| Dunfermline Athletic | Scotia | 10.064 |
| Tavrija Simferopol | Ucraina | 9.726 |
| AA Gent | Belgia | 9.594 |
| FC Midtjylland | Danemarca | 9.129 |
| FC Sion | Elvetia | 8.869 |
| FK Jablonec | Cehia | 8.851 |
| Erciyesspor | Turcia | 8.791 |
| Slavia Sofia | Bulgaria | 8.112 |
| Young Boys | Elvetia | 7.869 |
| AaB Aalborg | Danemarca | 7.129 |
| Lillestrøm SK | Norvegia | 6.509 |
| SK Brann Bergen | Norvegia | 6.509 |
| Maccabi Netanya | Israel | 6.338 |
| Vojvodina Novi Sad | Serbia | 6.256 |
| FK Bezanija | Serbia | 6.256 |
| SV Ried | Austria | 6.104 |
| SV Mattersburg | Austria | 6.104 |
| MTK Budapest | Ungaria | 5.675 |
| GKS Belchatow | Polonia | 5.609 |
| Zalaegerszeg TE | Ungaria | 4.675 |
| AIK Stockholm | Suedia | 4.478 |
| Nova Gorica | Slovenia | 4.272 |
| Dinamo Tbilisi | Georgia | 4.035 |
| MFK Kosice | Slovacia | 3.575 |
| NK Zagreb | Croatia | 3.533 |
| Slaven Koprivnica | Croatia | 3.533 |
| Omonia Nicosia | Cipru | 3.492 |
| BK Häcken | Suedia | 3.478 |
| MyPa-47 | Finlanda | 3.420 |
| Zimbru Chisinau | Moldova | 3.365 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Zrinjski Mostar | Bosnia-Hertegovina | 3.190 |
| Vardar Skopje | Macedonia | 2.925 |
| Metalurgs Liepaja | Letonia | 2.860 |
| Skonto Riga | Letonia | 2.860 |
| Suduva Marijampole | Lituania | 2.420 |
| HJK Helsinki | Finlanda | 2.420 |
| Ekranas Panevezys | Lituania | 2.420 |
| Haka Valkeakoski | Finlanda | 2.420 |
| Nistru Otaci | Moldova | 2.365 |
| Drogheda United | Irlanda | 2.145 |
| St. Patrick's Athletic | Irlanda | 2.145 |
| Ameri Tbilisi | Georgia | 2.035 |
| FC Vaduz | Liechtenstein | 1.980 |
| Rabotnicki Skopje | Macedonia | 1.925 |
| Keflavik | Islanda | 1.650 |
| KR Reykjavik | Islanda | 1.650 |
| Dinamo Brest | Belarus | 1.540 |
| Dinamo Minsk | Belarus | 1.540 |
| Besa Kavajë | Albania | 1.265 |
| Teuta Durrës | Albania | 1.265 |
| Trans Narva | Estonia | 1.210 |
| Flora Tallinn | Estonia | 1.210 |
| Banants Yerevan | Armenia | 1.155 |
| Mika Ashtarak | Armenia | 1.155 |
| Neftchi Baku | Azerbaidjan | 1.045 |
| MKT-Araz | Azerbaidjan | 1.045 |
| FK Almaty | Kazahstan | 0.770 |
| FK Aktobe | Kazahstan | 0.770 |
| Glentoran | Irlanda de Nord | 0.715 |
| Dungannon Swifts | Irlanda de Nord | 0.715 |
| Carmarthen Town | Tara Galilor | 0.660 |
| Rhyl FC | Tara Galilor | 0.660 |
| B36 Torshavn | Insulele Feroe | 0.550 |
| Etzella Ettelbrück | Luxemburg | 0.550 |
| Hibernians FC | Malta | 0.550 |
| EB Streymur | Insulele Feroe | 0.550 |
| UN Käerjeng | Luxemburg | 0.550 |
| Sliema Wanderers | Malta | 0.550 |
| Santa Coloma | Andorra | 0.000 |
| Libertas | San Marino | 0.000 |
| Rudar Pljevlja | Muntenegru | 0.000 |
| Buducnost Podgorica | Muntenegru | 0.000 |
Al doilea tur preliminar
Urna 1 (capi de serie):
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Panathinaikos | Grecia | 55.415 |
| Girondins Bordeaux | Franta | 49.706 |
| Bayer Leverkusen | Germania | 45.640 |
| Zenit St. Petersburg | Rusia | 38.920 |
| AEK Athens | Grecia | 36.415 |
| FC Twente Enschede | Olanda | 35.995 |
| Bolton Wanderers | Anglia | 32.618 |
| Partizan Belgrade | Serbia | 31.256 |
| Austria Wien | Austria | 30.104 |
| Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk | Ucraina | 29.726 |
| Galatasaray | Turcia | 26.791 |
| Getafe | Spania | 25.374 |
| Slovan Liberec | Cehia | 23.851 |
| Empoli | Italia | 21.808 |
| Hearts FC | Scotia | 21.064 |
| Hapoel Tel-Aviv | Israel | 19.338 |
| Litex Lovech | Bulgaria | 19.112 |
| OB Odense | Danemarca | 15.129 |
| FC Groningen | Olanda | 14.995 |
| Heerenveen | Olanda | 14.995 |
| Standard Liège | Belgia | 14.594 |
| Maccabi Tel-Aviv | Israel | 14.338 |
| Paços de Ferreira | Portugalia | 14.107 |
| Mladá Boleslav | Cehia | 13.851 |
| Trabzonspor | Turcia | 13.791 |
| Petrzalka Bratislava | Slovacia | 13.575 |
| Aris Thessaloniki | Grecia | 13.415 |
| Gloria Bistrita | Romania | 13.255 |
| CFR Cluj | Romania | 13.255 |
| Otelul Galati | Romania | 13.255 |
| Rubin Kazan | Rusia | 11.920 |
| Legia Warsaw | Polonia | 11.609 |
| Groclin Grodzisk | Polonia | 11.609 |
| Vålerengen IF | Norvegia | 11.509 |
| Lokomotiv Sofia | Bulgaria | 10.112 |
| Dunfermline Athletic | Scotia | 10.064 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Tavrija Simferopol | Ucraina | 9.726 |
| AA Gent | Belgia | 9.594 |
| FC Midtjylland | Danemarca | 9.129 |
| FC Sion | Elvetia | 8.869 |
| FK Jablonec | Cehia | 8.851 |
| Erciyesspor | Turcia | 8.791 |
| Slavia Sofia | Bulgaria | 8.112 |
| Young Boys | Elvetia | 7.869 |
| Hajduk Split | Croatia | 7.533 |
| AaB Aalborg | Danemarca | 7.129 |
| Lillestrøm SK | Norvegia | 6.509 |
| SK Brann Bergen | Norvegia | 6.509 |
| Maccabi Netanya | Israel | 6.338 |
| Vojvodina Novi Sad | Serbia | 6.256 |
| FK Bezanija | Serbia | 6.256 |
| SV Ried | Austria | 6.104 |
| SV Mattersburg | Austria | 6.104 |
| MTK Budapest | Ungaria | 5.675 |
| GKS Belchatow | Polonia | 5.609 |
| Anorthosis Famagusta | Cipru | 5.492 |
| Zalaegerszeg TE | Ungaria | 4.675 |
| Honvéd Budapest | Ungaria | 4.675 |
| AIK Stockholm | Suedia | 4.478 |
| Nova Gorica | Slovenia | 4.272 |
| Dinamo Tbilisi | Georgia | 4.035 |
| MFK Kosice | Slovacia | 3.575 |
| FC Zlaté Moravce | Slovacia | 3.575 |
| NK Zagreb | Croatia | 3.533 |
| Slaven Koprivnica | Croatia | 3.533 |
| Omonia Nicosia | Cipru | 3.492 |
| BK Häcken | Suedia | 3.478 |
| Helsingborg IF | Suedia | 3.478 |
| MyPa-47 | Finlanda | 3.420 |
| Zimbru Chisinau | Moldova | 3.365 |
| NK Koper | Slovenia | 3.272 |
| Siroki Brijeg | Bosnia-Hertegovina | 3.190 |
Primul tur
Urna 1 (capi de serie):
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Villarreal | Spania | 78.374 |
| Bayern München | Germania | 73.640 |
| AZ Alkmaar | Olanda | 63.995 |
| Werder Bremen | Germania | 63.640 |
| Panathinaikos | Grecia | 55.415 |
| Steaua Bucuresti | Romania | 55.255 |
| FC Basel | Elvetia | 54.869 |
| Girondins Bordeaux | Franta | 49.706 |
| Bayer Leverkusen | Germania | 45.640 |
| Besiktas | Turcia | 43.791 |
| Palermo | Italia | 42.808 |
| Tottenham Hotspur | Anglia | 40.618 |
| Real Zaragoza | Spania | 40.374 |
| Rapid Bucuresti | Romania | 40.255 |
| Zenit St. Petersburg | Rusia | 38.920 |
| Lokomotiv Moscow | Rusia | 38.920 |
| FC Sochaux-Montbéliard | Franta | 36.706 |
| AEK Athens | Grecia | 36.415 |
| FC Twente Enschede | Olanda | 35.995 |
| Slavia Praha | Cehia | 32.851 |
| Bolton Wanderers | Anglia | 32.618 |
| Partizan Belgrade | Serbia | 31.256 |
| Austria Wien | Austria | 30.104 |
| Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk | Ucraina | 29.726 |
| Spartak Moscow | Rusia | 27.920 |
| Sporting Braga | Portugalia | 27.107 |
| Galatasaray | Turcia | 26.791 |
| Getafe | Spania | 25.374 |
| Everton | Anglia | 24.618 |
| Slovan Liberec | Cehia | 23.851 |
| Empoli | Italia | 21.808 |
| Fiorentina | Italia | 21.808 |
| Hearts FC | Scotia | 21.064 |
| Stade Rennais | Franta | 20.706 |
| CSKA Sofia | Bulgaria | 20.112 |
| Hapoel Tel-Aviv | Israel | 19.338 |
| Litex Lovech | Bulgaria | 19.112 |
| Toulouse FC | Franta | 17.706 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Racing Genk | Belgia | 15.594 |
| OB Odense | Danemarca | 15.129 |
| FC Groningen | Olanda | 14.995 |
| Heerenveen | Olanda | 14.995 |
| 1.FC Nürnberg | Germania | 14.640 |
| Standard Liège | Belgia | 14.594 |
| Maccabi Tel-Aviv | Israel | 14.338 |
| Paços de Ferreira | Portugalia | 14.107 |
| CF Os Belenenses | Portugalia | 14.107 |
| Mladá Boleslav | Cehia | 13.851 |
| Trabzonspor | Turcia | 13.791 |
| Petrzalka Bratislava | Slovacia | 13.575 |
| Aris Thessaloniki | Grecia | 13.415 |
| Gloria Bistrita | Romania | 13.255 |
| CFR Cluj | Romania | 13.255 |
| Otelul Galati | Romania | 13.255 |
| Rubin Kazan | Rusia | 11.920 |
| Legia Warsaw | Polonia | 11.609 |
| Groclin Grodzisk | Polonia | 11.609 |
| Vålerengen IF | Norvegia | 11.509 |
| Aberdeen | Scotia | 11.064 |
| Lokomotiv Sofia | Bulgaria | 10.112 |
| Dunfermline Athletic | Scotia | 10.064 |
| Metalist Kharkiv | Ucraina | 9.726 |
| AE Larissa | Grecia | 8.415 |
| Fredrikstad FK | Norvegia | 6.509 |
| Zaglebie Lubin | Polonia | 5.609 |
| NK Domzale | Slovenia | 5.272 |
| IF Elfsborg | Suedia | 4.478 |
| FK Sarajevo | Bosnia-Hertegovina | 4.190 |
| FK Ventspils | Letonia | 3.860 |
| MSK Zilina | Slovacia | 3.575 |
| Derry City | Irlanda | 3.145 |
| FH Hafnarfjardar | Islanda | 2.650 |
| FBK Kaunas | Lituania | 2.420 |
| Tampere United | Finlanda | 2.420 |
| Sheriff Tiraspol | Moldova | 2.365 |
| Olimpi Rustavi | Georgia | 2.035 |
Grupele Cupei UEFA
Urna 1:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Villarreal | Spania | 78.374 |
| Bayern München | Germania | 73.640 |
| AZ Alkmaar | Olanda | 63.995 |
| Werder Bremen | Germania | 63.640 |
| Panathinaikos | Grecia | 55.415 |
| Steaua Bucuresti | Romania | 55.255 |
| FC Basel | Elvetia | 54.869 |
| Lazio Roma | Italia | 51.808 |
| Girondins Bordeaux | Franta | 49.706 |
| Glasgow Rangers | Scotia | 47.064 |
| Bayer Leverkusen | Germania | 45.640 |
| Club Brugge | Belgia | 45.594 |
Urna 2:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Shakhtar Donetsk | Ucraina | 44.726 |
| Besiktas | Turcia | 43.791 |
| Palermo | Italia | 42.808 |
| Tottenham Hotspur | Anglia | 40.618 |
| Real Zaragoza | Spania | 40.374 |
| Rapid Bucuresti | Romania | 40.255 |
| Lokomotiv Moscow | Rusia | 38.920 |
| Zenit St. Petersburg | Rusia | 38.920 |
| FC Sochaux-Montbéliard | Franta | 36.706 |
| AEK Athens | Grecia | 36.415 |
| FC Twente Enschede | Olanda | 35.995 |
| Slavia Praha | Cehia | 32.851 |
Urna 3:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Bolton Wanderers | Anglia | 32.618 |
| Partizan Belgrade | Serbia | 31.256 |
| Austria Wien | Austria | 30.104 |
| Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk | Ucraina | 29.726 |
| Spartak Moscow | Rusia | 27.920 |
| Sporting Braga | Portugalia | 27.107 |
| Galatasaray | Turcia | 26.791 |
| Getafe | Spania | 25.374 |
| Everton | Anglia | 24.618 |
| Slovan Liberec | Cehia | 23.851 |
| Fiorentina | Italia | 21.808 |
| Empoli | Italia | 21.808 |
Urna 4:
| Echipa | Tara | Coef |
| Hearts FC | Scotia | 21.064 |
| Stade Rennais | Franta | 20.706 |
| CSKA Sofia | Bulgaria | 20.112 |
| Hapoel Tel-Aviv | Israel | 19.338 |
| Litex Lovech | Bulgaria | 19.112 |
| Toulouse FC | Franta | 17.706 |
| Dinamo Zagreb | Croatia | 17.533 |
| DVSC Debrecen | Ungaria | 11.675 |
| FC Zürich | Elvetia | 9.869 |
| FC Salzburg | Austria | 9.104 |
| APOEL Nicosia | Cipru | 6.492 |
| Beitar Jerusalem | Israel | 6.338 |