Friday, October 21, 2011

2014 FIFA World Cup seeding: July vs. October 2011

Since it would have been quite a long post, I decided to split the CAF and UEFA seeding in two different posts.

The groups using the October ranking are based on the actual groups taking into account the zonal rank in July and October. For instance UEFA Group I had the teams ranked 1, 10, 25, 30 and 38 (Spain, France, Belarus, Georgia and Finland). Using the October rankings Group I would have been: Spain, Russia, Wales, Ukraine and Latvia.

2014 FIFA World Cup seeding: CAF (July vs. October 2011)
2014 FIFA World Cup seeding: UEFA (July vs. October 2011)

We all know FIFA brought the draw date forward to allow more time for AFC and CONCACAF qualifiers - already in full swing as I write this. I don't think it would have been feasible to postpone the draw for UEFA and CAF until now, but it was interesting (at least for me :D ) to take a look at the differences.

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Christian, husband, father x 3, programmer, Romanian. Started the blog in March 2007. Quit in April 2018. You can find me on LinkedIn.

2014 FIFA World Cup seeding: UEFA (July vs. October 2011)

This is what actually happened using the July 2011 FIFA ranking to seed the teams.

Pot 1: Spain, Netherlands, Germany, England, Portugal, Italy, Croatia, Norway, Greece
Pot 2: France, Montenegro, Russia, Sweden, Denmark, Slovenia, Turkey, Serbia, Slovakia
Pot 3: Switzerland, Israel, Republic of Ireland, Belgium, Czech Republic, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belarus, Ukraine, Hungary
Pot 4: Bulgaria, Romania, Georgia, Lithuania, Albania, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Austria, Poland
Pot 5: Armenia, Finland, Estonia, Cyprus, Latvia, Moldova, Macedonia, Azerbaijan, Faroe Islands
Pot 6: Wales, Liechtenstein, Iceland, Kazakhstan, Luxembourg, Malta, Andorra, San Marino

Group A: Croatia, Serbia, Belgium, Scotland, Macedonia, Wales
Group B: Italy, Denmark, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Armenia, Malta
Group C: Germany, Sweden, Republic of Ireland, Austria, Faroe Islands, Kazakhstan
Group D: Netherlands, Turkey, Hungary, Romania, Estonia, Andorra
Group E: Norway, Slovenia, Switzerland, Albania, Cyprus, Iceland
Group F: Portugal, Russia, Israel, Northern Ireland, Azerbaijan, Luxembourg
Group G: Greece, Slovakia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Lithuania, Latvia, Liechtenstein
Group H: England, Montenegro, Ukraine, Poland, Moldova, San Marino
Group I: Spain, France, Belarus, Georgia, Finland

What would have happened had FIFA postponed the draw to October?

Wales would have jumped from Pot 6 to Pot 3.
Armenia would have jumped from Pot 5 to Pot 3.
Denmark would have climbed from Pot 2 to Pot 1.
Bosnia-Herzegovina, Republic of Ireland and Switzerland would have climbed from Pot 3 to Pot 2.
Estonia would have climbed from Pot 5 to Pot 4.
Iceland and Luxembourg would have climbed from Pot 6 to Pot 5.

Norway would have dropped from Pot 1 to Pot 2.
Montenegro, Slovakia and Slovenia would have dropped from Pot 2 to Pot 3.
Belarus and Ukraine would have dropped from Pot 3 to Pot 4.
Bulgaria, Lithuania and Northern Ireland would have dropped from Pot 4 to Pot 5.
Cyprus, Faroe Islands and Moldova would have dropped from Pot 5 to Pot 6.


Pot 1: Spain, Netherlands, Germany, Italy, England, Greece, Portugal, Denmark, Croatia
Pot 2: Russia, Sweden, France, Switzerland, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia, Norway, Republic of Ireland, Turkey
Pot 3: Slovenia, Hungary, Belgium, Israel, Montenegro, Slovakia, Wales, Armenia, Czech Republic
Pot 4: Scotland, Romania, Ukraine, Estonia, Belarus, Poland, Georgia, Albania, Austria
Pot 5: Bulgaria, Latvia, Finland, Northern Ireland, Lithuania, FYR Macedonia, Iceland, Azerbaijan, Luxembourg
Pot 6: Cyprus, Faroe Islands, Moldova, Liechtenstein, Kazakhstan, Malta, Andorra, San Marino

Group A: Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Israel, Poland, Iceland, Cyprus
Group B: Greece, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, Scotland, Bulgaria, Malta
Group C: Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Albania, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein
Group D: Netherlands, Norway, Czech Republic, Romania, Finland, Andorra
Group E: Denmark, Serbia, Slovenia, Belarus, Northern Ireland, Moldova
Group F: England, France, Hungary, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan
Group G: Croatia, Turkey, Slovakia, Estonia, Lithuania, Faroe Islands
Group H: Italy, Sweden, Armenia, Austria, FYR Macedonia, San Marino
Group I: Spain, Russia, Wales, Ukraine, Latvia

About me:

Christian, husband, father x 3, programmer, Romanian. Started the blog in March 2007. Quit in April 2018. You can find me on LinkedIn.

2014 FIFA World Cup seeding: CAF (July vs. October 2011)

This is what actually happened using the July 2011 FIFA ranking to seed the teams.

Pot 1: Mozambique, Congo DR, Togo, Liberia, Tanzania, Congo, Kenya, Rwanda, Ethiopia, Namibia, Burundi, Madagascar
Pot 2: Guinea-Bissau, Equatorial Guinea, Chad, Swaziland, Comoros, Lesotho, Eritrea, Somalia, Djibouti, Mauritius, Seychelles, Sao Tome e Principe

Seychelles - Kenya
Guinea-Bissau - Togo
Djibouti - Namibia
Mauritius - Liberia
Comoros - Mozambique
Equatorial Guinea - Madagascar
Somalia - Ethiopia
Lesotho - Burundi
Eritrea - Rwanda
Swaziland - Congo DR
Sao Tome e Principe - Congo
Chad - Tanzania

Pot 1: Côte d'Ivoire, Egypt, Ghana, Burkina Faso, Nigeria, Senegal, South Africa, Cameroon, Algeria, Tunisia
Pot 2: Gabon, Libya, Morocco, Guinea, Botswana, Malawi, Zambia, Uganda, Mali, Cape Verde Islands
Pot 3: Benin, Zimbabwe, Central African Republic, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Niger, Angola, Gambia

Group A: South Africa, Botswana, Central African Republic, Somalia/Ethiopia
Group B: Tunisia, Cape Verde Islands, Sierra Leone, Equatorial Guinea/Madagascar
Group C: Côte d'Ivoire, Morocco, Gambia, Chad/Tanzania
Group D: Ghana, Zambia, Sudan, Lesotho/Burundi
Group E: Burkina Faso, Gabon, Niger, Sao Tome e Principe/Congo
Group F: Nigeria, Malawi, Seychelles/Kenya, Djibouti/Namibia
Group G: Egypt, Guinea, Zimbabwe, Comoros/Mozambique
Group H: Algeria, Mali, Benin, Eritrea/Rwanda
Group I: Cameroon, Libya, Guinea-Bissau/Togo, Swaziland/Congo DR
Group J: Senegal, Uganda, Angola, Mauritius/Liberia

What would have happened had FIFA postponed the draw to October?

Morocco would have replaced Tunisia in Pot 1.
Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe and Angola would have replaced Malawi, Uganda and Botswana in Pot 2.
Togo and Mozambique would have replaced Benin and Central African Republic in Pot 3.
Chad would have replaced Madagascar in Pot 4.

Pot 1: Rwanda, Benin, Liberia, Central African Republic, Namibia, Tanzania, Congo DR, Kenya, Ethiopia, Congo, Burundi, Chad
Pot 2: Equatorial Guinea, Lesotho, Madagascar, Guinea-Bissau, Swaziland, Seychelles, Comoros, Mauritius, Eritrea, Somalia, Djibouti, Sao Tome e Principe

Djibouti - Congo DR
Equatorial Guinea - Liberia
Eritrea - Congo
Somalia - Central African Republic
Swaziland - Rwanda
Lesotho - Chad
Mauritius - Ethiopia
Seychelles - Burundi
Comoros - Kenya
Guinea-Bissau - Benin
Sao Tome e Principe - Tanzania
Madagascar - Namibia

Pot 1: Côte d'Ivoire, Egypt, Ghana, Algeria, Senegal, Nigeria, Cameroon, South Africa, Burkina Faso, Morocco
Pot 2: Tunisia, Sierra Leone, Libya, Cape Verde Islands, Gabon, Mali, Zimbabwe, Guinea, Zambia, Angola
Pot 3: Malawi, Uganda, Botswana, Togo, Niger, Sudan, Mozambique, Gambia

Group A: Cameroon, Gabon, Botswana, Mauritius/Ethiopia
Group B: Morocco, Angola, Togo, Lesotho/Chad
Group C: Côte d'Ivoire, Libya, Gambia, Madagascar/Namibia
Group D: Ghana, Zimbabwe, Niger, Seychelles/Burundi
Group E: Algeria, Tunisia, Sudan, Sao Tome e Principe/Tanzania
Group F: Senegal, Mali, Djibouti/Congo DR, Eritrea/Congo
Group G: Egypt, Cape Verde Islands, Uganda, Swaziland/Rwanda
Group H: Burkina Faso, Zambia, Malawi, Comoros/Kenya
Group I: South Africa, Sierra Leone, Equatorial Guinea/Liberia, Guinea-Bissau/Benin
Group J: Cameroon, Guinea, Mozambique, Somalia/Central African Republic

About me:

Christian, husband, father x 3, programmer, Romanian. Started the blog in March 2007. Quit in April 2018. You can find me on LinkedIn.

2014 FIFA World Cup seeding update (21 October 2011)

Next update: 18 November 2011 or later.

See more info in the original 2014 FIFA World Cup seeding post.

This is the top 20 of the intermediate October 2013 FIFA ranking:


1 Spain 405
2 Netherlands 375
3 Germany 369
4 Uruguay 340
5 England 284
6 Argentina 278
7 Italy 277
8 Greece 275
9 Portugal 272
10 Denmark 262
11 Brazil 258
12 Sweden 251
13 Croatia 249
14 Russia 244
15 Japan 241
16 France 239
17 Norway 233
18 Chile 232
19 Côte d'Ivoire 220
20 Switzerland 218

Mexico (23), USA (45).

Italy replace Portugal in the list of seeds.

Right now, the seeds for the 2014 World Cup would be: Brazil, Spain, Netherlands, Germany, Uruguay, England, Argentina and Italy.

About me:

Christian, husband, father x 3, programmer, Romanian. Started the blog in March 2007. Quit in April 2018. You can find me on LinkedIn.

2014 World Cup seeding: AFC 4th round (21 October 2011)

Next update: 18 November 2011 or later.

AFC have announced the draw for the 4th round will also be based on the FIFA rankings.

2014 F1FA World Cup Brazil™ - Asian Qualifiers Round 4 - Draw
The Committee decided to take the latest FIFA/Coca Cola rankings at the time of the Draw for Round 4 as F1FA Ranking has already been implemented for Round 3.

Yes, it's F1FA, not FIFA :)

The last match day of round 3 takes place on February 29, while the first match day of round 4 is scheduled for June 3.

I think the draw will take place in March, using the March FIFA ranking that will be released based on my calculations on March 15.

4 years ago, the 4 lowest seeded teams of the 10 qualified for the 4th round were placed in a single pot.

Here's the March 2012 FIFA ranking, counting scheduled games as defeats:


1 Australia 753
2 Japan 694
3 Korea Republic 619
4 Iran 510
5 China PR 418
6 Jordan 401
7 Uzbekistan 393
8 Iraq 355
9 Kuwait 349
10 Qatar 331
11 Saudi Arabia 318
12 Bahrain 305
13 Oman 280
14 Thailand 234
15 United Arab Emirates 208
16 Korea DPR 203
17 Tajikistan 195
18 Indonesia 159
19 Singapore 148
20 Lebanon 122

Pot 1: Australia, Japan
Pot 2: Korea Republic, Iran
Pot 3: China PR, Jordan
Pot 4: Uzbekistan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia

About me:

Christian, husband, father x 3, programmer, Romanian. Started the blog in March 2007. Quit in April 2018. You can find me on LinkedIn.

EURO 2016 qualifying draw seeding (21 October 2011)

Next update: 18 November 2011 or later.

The coefficients for the EURO 2016 qualifying draw will take into account results from:

2010 World Cup (qualifiers and final tournament) - 20% of total weighting
EURO 2012 (qualifiers and final tournament) - 40% of total weighting
2014 World Cup (qualifiers) - 40% of total weighting

Click here for more info on the coefficient system.

The qualifying format is already known (but things might change): 9 groups (2 x 5, 7 x 6)

Top two from each group and the best team in third place advance. The other eight play-off for the final four spots.

3 group stages losses added for the teams already qualified. 2 playoff losses added for the playoff teams.

Sweden and Denmark replace Ukraine and Croatia in Pot 1.
Belgium and Scotland replace Montenegro and Finland in Pot 3.
Wales replace Bulgaria in Pot 4.

Best movers:

8 - Scotland
7 - Wales
4 - Belgium, Latvia, Armenia and Austria

Worst movers:

-8 - Montenegro
-7 - Poland
-6 - Ukraine

Rank - Previous Rank - Team - Points

1  2 Spain              23198
 2  1 Netherlands        22806
 3  3 Germany            22561
 4  5 Italy              19462
 5  4 England            18889
 6  8 Russia             18584
 7  9 Greece             18408
 8 10 Sweden             18204
 9 12 Denmark            18086
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10  7 Croatia            17978
11 11 Portugal           17424
12  6 Ukraine            17078
13 13 Hungary            16981
14 17 Ireland            16926
15 14 Bosnia-Herzegovina 16668
16 18 Norway             16601
17 15 Serbia             16244
18 16 Slovakia           16112
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19 20 Slovenia           15774
20 23 Switzerland        15751
21 21 Israel             15741
22 19 Turkey             15131
23 22 Czech Republic     15071
24 28 Belgium            14051
25 27 Romania            14021
26 34 Scotland           13913
27 24 Belarus            13871
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28 32 Latvia             13771
29 33 Armenia            13681
30 26 Finland            13601
31 35 Austria            13571
32 30 Estonia            13201
33 25 Montenegro         13030
34 41 Wales              12770
35 31 Northern Ireland   12561
36 29 Poland             12543
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37 36 Bulgaria           11090
38 39 Albania            10790
39 40 Macedonia          10755
40 37 Lithuania          10665
41 38 Georgia            10440
42 44 Moldova            10001
43 42 Azerbaijan          9380
44 43 Iceland             8975
45 45 Cyprus              8456
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46 47 Kazakhstan          8260
47 46 Luxembourg          8030
48 49 Faroe Islands       7850
49 48 Liechtenstein       7840
50 50 Malta               6000
51 51 Andorra             5160
52 52 San Marino          4480

About me:

Christian, husband, father x 3, programmer, Romanian. Started the blog in March 2007. Quit in April 2018. You can find me on LinkedIn.

Friday, October 14, 2011

EURO 2012: How the play-offs affect the pots

France will root for Bosnia-Herzegovina... Isn't that something :)

Sure to be in pot 4 if they qualify: Czech Republic, Republic of Ireland, Turkey, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro and Estonia.

That leaves Croatia and Portugal as the ones that could push teams to a lower pot.

Teams that could be affected: Russia, Denmark and France.

So who's safe?

Pot 1: Poland, Ukraine, Spain, Netherlands
Pot 2: Germany, Italy, England
Pot 3: Greece, Sweden
Pot 4: All play-off teams, bar Croatia and Portugal

Russia

Pot 2: If Croatia don't get two wins against Turkey
Pot 3: If Croatia qualify with two wins against Turkey

Croatia

Pot 2: If they qualify with two wins against Turkey
Pot 3: If they qualify but not with two wins against Turkey

Denmark

Pot 3: If Croatia don't qualify or Portugal don't get a win against Bosnia-Herzegovina
Pot 4: If Croatia qualify and Portugal qualify with at least one win

Portugal

Pot 3: If they get at least one win or (they qualify with two draws and Croatia don't qualify)
Pot 4: If they qualify with two draws and Croatia qualify

France

Pot 3: If Croatia and Portugal don't qualify
Pot 4: If Croatia or Portugal qualify

And here's the table with possible coefficient values - goals scored in the play-offs not taken into account since they won't affect the pots.

D - draw, W - win - L - loss, Q - qualified team, P - play-off team

Team - 2D - 1W1L - 1W1D - 2W


Spain (Q) 43116 43116 43116 43116
Netherlands (Q) 40860 40860 40860 40860
Germany (Q) 40446 40446 40446 40446
Italy (Q) 34357 34357 34357 34357
England (Q) 33563 33563 33563 33563
Russia (Q) 33212 33212 33212 33212
Greece (Q) 32455 32455 32455 32455
Croatia (P) 32286 32620 32953 33620
Sweden (Q) 31675 31675 31675 31675
Denmark (Q) 31205 31205 31205 31205
Portugal (P) 30837 31237 31637 32437
France (Q) 30508 30508 30508 30508
Czech Republic (P) 27942 28342 28742 29542
Ireland (P) 27843 28176 28510 29176
Turkey (P) 27528 27861 28195 28861
Bosnia-Herzegovina (P) 26902 27235 27568 28235
Montenegro (P) 21976 22476 22976 23976
Estonia (P) 20351 20684 21018 21684

About me:

Christian, husband, father x 3, programmer, Romanian. Started the blog in March 2007. Quit in April 2018. You can find me on LinkedIn.